Was the 1986 trial unfair ?

[grahameb]

Morning Susan,,exactly.If the held evidence was in Jeremys' favour,,then all concerned wouldn't be happy at all.
 Had the evidence destroyed Jeremy even more than he had been,,they then would have had the concrete proof that they'd so needed in order to secure the conviction that they desperately needed at the time. But there was NEVER anything to prove that he'd done any such thing.
I didn't think you could be imprisoned because nobody liked you,,but there you are. The police at one time were a very" left-wing" organisation,,and there'd have been no sympathy for Jeremy,a young,rich, up and coming businessman who would eventually have taken over his fathers' farm. Jealousy,I suspect.
An incident years ago proved this to me,,when my daughter had suffered bad next-door neighbours.Would you believe that the first question my daughter was asked was," do you own your house ",to which my daughter said," yes ". Well,came the answer," the next door only rented and were on benefits " ! What ? With that,the police were laughing and joking with the neighbours,,whose unruly teen had thrown paint over my daughters' front door/window,,slashed all 4 tyres of her car and threatened me for shouting at them,,jumped my g/son and his friend one New Years Eve to which the friend was hospitalised,my g/son was battered black and blue. CPS threw the case out saying there wasn't enough evidence !!!
12 months later,the family had done a moonlight flit ( thank goodness ) but it wasn't long before this unruly thug of a teenager ( that was another thing the police had said," he's only 16 !" ) held a shop up with a gun. He didn't go to prison or any other corrective place,,instead,they told his mother to keep him indoors !!!
Last I heard was that he'd gone to live in London. It'll only be a matter of time before I see his name in the papers-----------again. A criminal in the making.


I'm very surprised that everything wasn't incinerated.I wonder why this was ? Unless the powers that be thought,that at some time in the future,that the hidden evidence would come to light to prove that he was innocent. After all,,it suited EVERYONE at the time,to shut Jeremy up for a few years,until the dust settled,to hold back on the truth.
I wonder if any of them ever thought that at some point,Jeremy would fight back ? Did they honestly think that the man would take all this lying down ?

I'm of the opinion that if Jeremy had come from a run-down family,,was on benefits,no hope in life,etc etc,,that he'd have been well released before now.This is the difference,,and if you look at the way the sentencing is today,,you'll understand what I'm talking about. Some of the sentencing for heinous crimes,are abysmal. The excuses ? They just roll off the tongues of those idiots that will never live anywhere near these criminals.

That is a very sad story you told there lookout. And one which makes me very angry with the so called police, who are sworn under oath to uphold the law. No longer is an Englishmans home his castle. I think that these days the police are more aware of these unruly neighbours and the councils are beginning to listen to law abiding people who complain of these neighbours from hell.

[lookout]

Grahame,,as you can imagine,I filled in page after page of statements,plus the police saw the damage that had been done,but when the statements got to the CPS,they didn't want to know. One officer thought it was hilarious ! A most despicable character he was too. This was in 2003.
When " victim support " came knocking,,I told them where to go with their " support ".
It would have seemed at the time,that the law didn't like decent families. That incident put me off for life,,but I still have all the paperwork,etc pertaining to it,,for future reference should it ever be needed.

[susan]

Hi lookout  I am  lucky that I hve never had dealings as such with the police but I do know one or two ex CID guys and I know what they are made of self self self and I would not trust them an inch.  Jeremy Bamber was not given a fair trial nor has he been given fair Appeals and the time has now come for the Justice System to give him another trial so that the case can be reconsidered not asking for much is he.  Maybe this will be his year.  Do hope so difficult for him to get new evidence when they will not release anything they should be made to do so afterall they should be answerable to somebody afterall we are paying their salaries and pensions some I know retire at 50 on a full pension with  bad back then go on to take other jobs I see it all the time bloody disgrace they should all be given Community Service Orders

[lookout]

I fully agree with you,Susan,in every way.
Jeremy is now deserving of a re-trial. His exemplary behaviour over the years has to also count for something as well,because anyone else would have constantly caused mayhem at every wakening hour.
It's no use everyone waiting for a " guilty " plea because it's not going to happen,,and I also think that this too is part and parcel of him being incarcerated for so long. It's been a battle of wills in that respect for years now,Jeremy v Police. No chance, when the man's innocent.
The police will never be punished like the ordinary man in the street,,whether retired or not.I think they're all protected by this immunity excuse.

[Adam]

People have once again this week claimed the 1986 trial was unfair. But have not said why.

This was discussed several months ago. But here is the thread again in case anyone missed it.

[Adam]

Re: The caravan break in. A taste for money, a taste to massacre ?

« Reply #195 on: Yesterday at 05:39 PM »

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 The jury didn't know the half of it. Though if any of them glance on this forum,they'll know now !

[lookout]

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