Further developments regarding phone calls:

[Adam]

That which you judge totally biased is in fact totally fact and has the documents to back them up. You unfortunately tend rather to believe the biased thoughts of a novelist. The character of his writing prove that he is a novelist. He is aiming to set people's emotions aflame. A true investigative journalist keeps tightly to the facts without giving his (however disguised) opinions about the subject matter. You on the other hand are one of those gullible people who hang on his every word.
As for Woffinden. I have already given my views on him. But kust for the record I will say it again. If this man can spend all those years defending Bamber, then changes his mind. Then this means that everything that he has written about him in the past was a waste of our time reading it. Also a man who can suddenly change his mind on something after si long a time, who's to say he will not change his mind again? Conclusion: A thoroughly unreliable man. In other words, what does he say that causes us to believe him? Answer: Nothing.
But of course unfortunately it appears that you yourself are not in possession of a free thinking and descerning mind. So whatever I write will fall upon blind eyes and whatever I say will land upon deaf ears.

You did not say whether you have read the book. I will post a couple of reviews. Again.

[grahameb]

I do not have to prove he is guilty. That has already been proved.

However Jeremy is the only lifer still protesting his innocence. Blaming EP, Julie, the relatives , the judge,  Sheila etc. All with outlandish reasons. Which I find distasteful as I believe him guilty.

However a few people have been taken in, resulting in this forum being created which I like to discuss on.

Jeremys call to the police helped convict him. So it is interesting to discuss whether it was planned or a decision made on the night. I have just said it was a decision made on the night. Feel free to discuss.

Yes you do. Otherwise it makes no sense that you are here on this forum. If it had been "proved" as you state, then why do so many legal minds, including great minds like Simon McKay contend that verdict. If it is so cut and dried then why are there so many people who believe him to be innocent and a victim of  a gross miscarriage of justice? What do you say to all those people? That we are all fools?

[Adam]

This is an excellent who-dun-it true life crime mystery. This is an excellent non-biased book about Jeremy Bamber and the murder at White House Farm.

Did Jeremy Bamber carry out this awful massacre of his family - although I believe he may well have, am not entirely convinced. If he did, then I feel sure his girlfriend at that time Julie Mugford, knew more than she let on and only went to the police when he dumped her as she did not want to be implicated in any way. Also, if he did commit the crime he would not have been able to say she had known of his plans, otherwise that would have been admitting his guilt. I was very concerned when reading this very intriguing story that the young Caffell children should ever have been allowed to stay in a house where guns were kept loaded or unloaded in shower rooms, kitchen, den, etc., although no comment was ever made in book about this. I found this book almost impossible to put down, extremely well-written and easy and straight-forward to read.

Would recommend to all real-life crime readers - best book I've read in years

[grahameb]

Wilkes would have interviewed the two policemen present. He also interviewed Jeremy.

However if you can find a police statement...

In actual fact that ball is in Wilkes' court. He must if he he is a true investigative journalist list all his sources somewhere in his book. So I throw that back to you. Prove to me that Wilkes' quote is true?

[Adam]

Who could forget this awful crime, a very well written book, couldnt put it down, very factual, allows you to make your own mind up, remember this case well, well i did back then, and my opinion is the same now, as far as im concerned, common sense prevailed at the trial and bamber was found guilty of all the murders, what i do believe is that jeremy believes he is innocent and will fight to the end to prove it, if he secures an appeal in the future and is released, it will be on a technicality, wait and see, i hope he rots in jail then onto hell. Rest in peace sheila, nicholas, daniel, neville and june.

[grahameb]

Who could forget this awful crime, a very well written book, couldnt put it down, very factual, allows you to make your own mind up, remember this case well, well i did back then, and my opinion is the same now, as far as im concerned, common sense prevailed at the trial and bamber was found guilty of all the murders, what i do believe is that jeremy believes he is innocent and will fight to the end to prove it, if he secures an appeal in the future and is released, it will be on a technicality, wait and see, i hope he rots in jail then onto hell. Rest in peace sheila, nicholas, daniel, neville and june.

Look Adam. I'm not interested in your lame quotes from reviews from people that nobody knows. What, can't you judge the book by yourself? Do you always drink in the water that someone else has vomited up?

[Adam]

Great account of the White House Farm Shootings of 1985.

Its a classic account of a whodunit ; either Jeremy Bamber or his mentally ill sister Sheila, of whom only one could have caused the deaths since Sheila was found dead herself.

The book leaves you in no doubt that Jeremy Bamber is guilty but still very much leads you to make your own judgement based on the evidence thoroughly presented. Its very obvious based on the circumstantial evidence that Bamber is guilty. It would surely simply be too much for so many people to be biased or self interested, including the police, family of those murdered and primary witness Julie Mugford, who attested that Jeremy had admitted wanting to kill his family.

This is one of those very interesting cases whereby had the police done a better job, the rightful killer (Bamber or Sheila) would have been found from day 1. As it was with no DNA evidence in 1985, exhibits not found by the police (the rifle moderator) at the start and a bungled investigation, the truth may never be known with any certainty. One thing for sure is that Jeremy Bamber knows himself! Understand that a new book is to come out soon by former MP Andrew Hunter (pro Bamber) called 'beyond reasonable doubt'.0 of 1 people found this review helpful

[Adam]

In actual fact that ball is in Wilkes' court. He must if he he is a true investigative journalist list all his sources somewhere in his book. So I throw that back to you. Prove to me that Wilkes' quote is true?

Wilkes interviewed everyone, including Jeremy & excluding Julie.

Wilkes interviewed Jeremy & the two police officers. Jeremy did say he was starving.

Proved.

You still have not said whether you have read the book.

[Adam]

Look Adam. I'm not interested in your lame quotes from reviews from people that nobody knows. What, can't you judge the book by yourself? Do you always drink in the water that someone else has vomited up?

I have judged the book myself.

It is an excellent factual & unbiased book. Lots of detail from an investigative author who interviewed everyone except Julie but including Jeremy.

5 stars.

[Jane]

I have judged the book myself.

It is an excellent factual & unbiased book. Lots of detail from an investigative author who interviewed everyone except Julie but including Jeremy.

5 stars.

How the hell can ANYONE, let alone someone with tunnel vision, adjudge something to be unbiased when they're not privy to the original sequence of events. All that's been provided is other peoples' versions of what happened and they CAN'T be said to be unbiased.

[Adam]

How the hell can ANYONE, let alone someone with tunnel vision, adjudge something to be unbiased when they're not privy to the original sequence of events. All that's been provided is other peoples' versions of what happened and they CAN'T be said to be unbiased.

Errr. It is called writing a factual book. Interviewing the witnesses. Including Jeremy. As well as putting down factually what was said in court. Jeremy being the main witness.

[Adam]

I got the book after investigating about the case online & on Youtube.

So have a lot of knowledge on the case. However am still learning. Such as yesterday when I found out Jeremy has photos of a bizarre police banner at WHF.

[grahameb]

Wilkes interviewed everyone, including Jeremy & excluding Julie.

Wilkes interviewed Jeremy & the two police officers. Jeremy did say he was starving.

Proved.

You still have not said whether you have read the book.

Where is the reference of Wilkes aluding to this event. Come on Wilkes must have had it referenced somewhere. So we can see what the police officers actually said?

[Adam]

Where is the reference of Wilkes aluding to this event. Come on Wilkes must have had it referenced somewhere. So we can see what the police officers actually said?

Read the book yourself. Something you clearly have not done.

I have. So there.

[lookout]

And we won't see your arse for dust when his conviction is quashed !!!