Further developments regarding phone calls:

[Patti]

Patti, welcome back I think it's possible that Julie and her living companions eventually got together to come up with an average time to fit the crime. Originally their times were all over the place.

Morning April  

That's exactly what I was trying to say.

The times calls weremade are less important in my opinion.  What was important was the collection of concrete forensic evidence that was appallingly overlooked by Essex police.   

[susan]

Hello Patti

think all this about when the calls were made is just a "red herring" as what does it prove all the forensic evidence that was not collected or was collected and burnt would have been more use and that is not now available.  Would love to see the late Taff Jones's notebook but guess that is being held under PII.  So what can we do.

[Patti]

Hello Patti

think all this about when the calls were made is just a "red herring" as what does it prove all the forensic evidence that was not collected or was collected and burnt would have been more use and that is not now available.  Would love to see the late Taff Jones's notebook but guess that is being held under PII.  So what can we do.

Taff's note book has been posted on here and its on the red forum, if memory serves me right.  This business about the notebook being stolen after Taff had died is not the truth Susan.  I will try and post it all later on or bump the thread. I like to bump things lol 

[susan]

Patti that would be great I would love to read it.  Thanks for the bumping

[grahameb]

If I remember rightly Scott Lomax told me that Taff Jones' notebook was in the hands of the police? He told me this because at the time someone came on the forum claiming that it was in Australia and had been sold to a newspaper. Which turned out to be a lie told by a member who was just trying to stir things up. The so called red forum was not in existence then. But an equally obnoxious site was on Facebook at that time spreading all kinds of lies and rumours.

[susan]

Grahame I have been told by a reliable source (not MD) that the notebook is being held under PII.

[grahameb]

Grahame I have been told by a reliable source (not MD) that the notebook is being held under PII.

It may well be? But if it is then why are a few of its pages being posted on the forum?

[Patti]

If I remember rightly Scott Lomax told me that Taff Jones' notebook was in the hands of the police? He told me this because at the time someone came on the forum claiming that it was in Australia and had been sold to a newspaper. Which turned out to be a lie told by a member who was just trying to stir things up. The so called red forum was not in existence then. But an equally obnoxious site was on Facebook at that time spreading all kinds of lies and rumours.

Hi Grahame

Parts of the notebook are on here. I'm unsure if there are pages missing or any that are held by PII

If the police had the notebook then Jeremy's defence team must have applied for the notebook at some point because parts of it has been posted on here.   

[lookout]

2 sets of notes,Grahame ? I noted that among the notes which are there,,includes another crime which had no relevence to this one,,but was written on the same sheet.
I'd have thought that this should have been a separate entry from all others as this is how mistakes are made,and get misinterpreted.