Did Jeremy hate June ?

[Jan]

Please provide the post where you asked this question before. I must have missed it.

Barbara Wilson said this in the recent documentary. From what I remember they were alive.

so she did not bring this obviously  terribly important fact up in any statements or in court . Quite amazing how she said he was like a son to her. Bad judgement I guess

[Jane]

april very well put we do not know if Jeremy ever said those words even if he did does not make him a murderer they must have been feeling insecure about his conviction to have this gossip repeated in Court.

Thanks Susan. The REAL point I was trying to make, but I don't think I quite got there, was that Julie's mother wasn't about to stand up in court and say anything derogatory or do a character assassination about her own daughter, so if it required an extension of the truth  -as in "He NEVER..........." as opposed to "There may have been times when he didn't....................."- in an attempt to condemn the man she was hoping to have as a son in law, so be it. She would have out her daughter first.

[Adam]

so she did not bring this obviously  terribly important fact up in any statements or in court . Quite amazing how she said he was like a son to her. Bad judgement I guess

She did say in court that Jeremy seemed very happy after the massacre.

[susan]

Adam wonder how Jeremy caught the rats they are sharp and travel at speed and would bite and he could have ended up with a fatal disease.  Adam if I had to post up all the posts you have missed of mine I would be here for a week.

[Jane]

She did say in court that Jeremy seemed very happy after the massacre.

In her opinion

[Adam]

Adam wonder how Jeremy caught the rats they are sharp and travel at speed and would bite and he could have ended up with a fatal disease.  Adam if I had to post up all the posts you have missed of mine I would be here for a week.

One post would be a start.

So Barbara Wilson was lying ?

[nugnug]

its that stuck record agian.

[susan]

Adam I merely asked you a straight forward question how did he catch the rats alive I DID NOT SAY BARBARA WILSON WAS LYING.  Two earlier posts this evening still waiting for a reply.

[Jane]

One post would be a start.

So Barbara Wilson was lying ?

Well, having given two statements so ENTIRELY different they could have been made by different people, it stands to reason that ONE of them is a lie.

[Adam]

He may not have been close to June but he obviously spoke to her....how could he not? He worked on the farm and would have had daily contact.

So the information about Wills etc might have been common knowledge,  families do talk about things between themselves.

Beyond that my only knowledge of his relationship with June is what I have read....and more than one person gave evidence of his poor relationship with his parents.  But Sheila did not have a good relationship with June either...., or at least she may have had an uneasy one.

Why would he have daily contact with June. 

He worked on a large farm. Not inside WHF. He did not have a key for WHF & lived 3 miles away. June was not a farmer.

Interesting he was in the same room as everyone a few hours before they died.

[Adam]

Adam I merely asked you a straight forward question how did he catch the rats alive I DID NOT SAY BARBARA WILSON WAS LYING.  Two earlier posts this evening still waiting for a reply.

How would I know how he caught the rats ? Why don't you find out ?

Was it Julie who said he strangled rats to see if he had the courage to carry out the massacre ?

[grahameb]

The only information he told to Mary Mugford was about Junes will.

That information could have come from Neville, Sheila, Basil Cock, Colin Caffell or Jeremy being nosey in the study. Or June may have told him, perhaps after she found rats in her car.

So no proof of any of this then and certainly any proof that he hated his mother?

[grahameb]

Why would he have daily contact with June. 

He worked on a large farm. Not inside WHF. He did not have a key for WHF & lived 3 miles away. June was not a farmer.

Interesting he was in the same room as everyone a few hours before they died.

All my kids have keys to my house. I wonder why Jeremy didn't have one for WHF? Or did he and we haven't heard of it? Amazing also is why the police didn't ask him if he had a key. For if he had then all they needed was to put it into the lock of the front door?

[Adam]

So no proof of any of this then and certainly any proof that he hated his mother?

How can you prove someone hates someone ?

Several people have said how much Jeremy hated his parents. Both in & out of court.

Jeremy said himself in court he had a poor relationship with June. Since conviction the best he can say about her is he was a mummies boy, playing on the farm. This would have been before he was packed off to boarding school.

[Jan]

How would I know how he caught the rats ? Why don't you find out ?

Was it Julie who said he strangled rats to see if he had the courage to carry out the massacre ?

  come on Adam that's like saying he jumped in a stream so see if he could swim the channel