Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...

[susan]

lookout the only thing the rellies live in fear of is he will be released and claim what is rightfully his.  Jeremy Bamber is not a violent person why would they live in fear do they know within themselves they have wronged him and think he will want to take revenge.

[susan]

lookout the rellies will not be living easy as the Bamber case will go on and on and one day he will be released and they will have no control over it and they will have to deal with it.  I suspect they have had some influence but this is coming to an end now.

[lookout]

Guilt,,Susan. Pure guilt. I wouldn't trust any of them. Thank goodness that Jeremy got the education that he did,,as well as his fathers' guidance. The latter has made him strong,,and he'll continue to hold his head high.

[susan]

lookout yes Jeremy must be quite a strong person to come through all this.  I heard a couple of the rellies interviewed recently about the Appeal one said "oh he only does it to annoy us" and the other said "he has nothing better to do" how pathetic is that they should be ashamed of themselves and he will have his day.

[grahameb]

So, I wonder whose blood it was if planted the night before???

(1) Sheila's. (2) Robert Boutflours. It is more reasonable to state that it was Sheila's. With the copious amouts of Sheila's blood lying about why would anyone use somebody else's.

[lookout]

Was it known that RWB and Sheila shared the same blood group before the 4 murders and 1 suicide was established,,,or after ?

[Jane]

Was it known that RWB and Sheila shared the same blood group before the 4 murders and 1 suicide was established,,,or after ?

Lookout, I can't see how it could have been known beforehand. They weren't exactly a close knit family given to sharing intimacies.

[grahameb]

Think the return of the money to the family was VERY VERY important

May I just add something here without the fear of being contradicted. Bobby Boutflour, the father of Robert Boutflour was a Freemason. Now as it turns out his father before him was a Freemason as well. This I can confirm because I have seen the book that was written by Bobby Boutflour.
Now this kind of membership is usually passed down to the son. So I can state almost without contradiction that R. W. Boutflour was a Mason as well.
Now why is this of significance? Because RWB was still of the old school of Freemasonry that dictated that one Mason must defend another Mason even if that other Freemason was outside the law. Not only that, but some of these old fellers believed that in certain circumstances that the end justifies the means. A bit like, in fact much like "Noble Cause Corruption".

[lookout]

Lookout, I can't see how it could have been known beforehand. They weren't exactly a close knit family given to sharing intimacies.

What I should have said April,,, is,,,was it known after the 4 murders and 1 suicide.

[Jane]

May I just add something here without the fear of being contradicted. Bobby Boutflour, the father of Robert Boutflour was a Freemason. Now as it turns out his father before him was a Freemason as well. This I can confirm because I have seen the book that was written by Bobby Boutflour.
Now this kind of membership is usually passed down to the son. So I can state almost without contradiction that R. W. Boutflour was a Mason as well.
Now why is this of significance? Because RWB was still of the old school of Freemasonry that dictated that one Mason must defend another Mason even if that other Freemason was outside the law. Not only that, but some of these old fellers believed that in certain circumstances that the end justifies the means. A bit like, in fact mush like "Noble Cause Corruption".

Grahame, I have the distinct impression the RWB saw himself as head of the family despite that it seemed that Nevill was the monied one.

[Adam]

How did the relatives know the RB had the same blood group as Sheila ?

If they were going to become sudden big time criminals & frame an innocent man, they would have to have known this before 14th August.

[grahameb]

How did the relatives know the RB had the same blood group as Sheila ?

If they were going to become sudden big time criminals & frame an innocent man, they would have to have known this before 14th August.

Thet probably didn't. That is why I stated that it was probably Sheila's blood in the silencer.

[Adam]

How did Sheila's blood get deep into the silencer ?

[lookout]

May I just add something here without the fear of being contradicted. Bobby Boutflour, the father of Robert Boutflour was a Freemason. Now as it turns out his father before him was a Freemason as well. This I can confirm because I have seen the book that was written by Bobby Boutflour.
Now this kind of membership is usually passed down to the son. So I can state almost without contradiction that R. W. Boutflour was a Mason as well.
Now why is this of significance? Because RWB was still of the old school of Freemasonry that dictated that one Mason must defend another Mason even if that other Freemason was outside the law. Not only that, but some of these old fellers believed that in certain circumstances that the end justifies the means. A bit like, in fact much like "Noble Cause Corruption".

The Touch me Not brigade.

[nugnug]

How did the relatives know the RB had the same blood group as Sheila ?

If they were going to become sudden big time criminals & frame an innocent man, they would have to have known this before 14th August.

it wouldent of been a hard thing to have found out.