Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...

[Steve_uk]

Page 203. Re: the 10pm call.

I wish people would give chapter numbers rather than page references. It's like me saying Jesus went into the wilderness on page 370..

[Adam]

I wish people would give chapter numbers rather than page references. It's like me saying Jesus went into the wilderness on page 370..

If you have the book. Just go to the page number.

[Caroline]

I wish people would give chapter numbers rather than page references. It's like me saying Jesus went into the wilderness on page 370..

Ha, ha!! That's a bit ungracious Steve, at least he looked. Personally, I prefer page numbers.

[Jane]

I wish people would give chapter numbers rather than page references. It's like me saying Jesus went into the wilderness on page 370..

Well done, Steve, but even a page number is a step up on his previous habit of presenting it, without inverts, as if he had written it, with no acknowledgement that it was someone else's work.

[Alias]

Alias I am afraid I find Julie's statements very difficult to believe infact I will say it I don't believe any of it if he said tonight's the night why did she not contact Ralph and warn him for the sake of the two little boys if her statements are indeed accurate she should have been charged as an accessory to murder and be jailed herself for her other criminal activities as well.

Absolutely - and I believe the EP threatened to do just that, IF she did not testify against Jeremy. On the other hand, if she did, she would walk free of any charges.
That is why her accounts mostly don´t make sense, in my opinion. Most were concocted in collaboration with EP (32 paid for sessions, that is a lot for any witness!)
Julie must have been scared to death! Maybe we are too hard on her.

[susan]

april steve does really have a wonderful way with words and I mean that not being sarcastic don't always agree with the contents of his posts but they are put together in such a wonderful way.

[Jan]

Julie testified that she said 'Don't be so ridiculous' & 'yeah sure' (sarcastically) when Jeremy said 'it's now or never'.

Being treated with contempt by his own girlfriend. Was that the final motivation for Jeremy ?

strange then that she did not mention this in her very LONG police statement

"He said to have only got the 10p don’t go to work. A police car will be coming to pick you up. He said I will explain to you later when I see you. I got showered and dressed, and later a police car picked me up and I went to Goldhanger. At the house I met Jeremy who appeared upset. DS Jones told me what had happened although I already knew".



So she already knew - when the police collected her . And she said nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[bigdaveglasgow75]

did jeremy bamber ever say in his initial trial.that he never saw sheila shoot guns at all??

[Steve_uk]

If you have the book. Just go to the page number.

I did,but it must be a different edition. Are you stalling..

[Jan]

did jeremy bamber ever say in his initial trial.that he never saw sheila shoot guns at all??

I think in his original statement he said she had not handled guns much - it was someone else who said she had gone on a shooting trip - but I don't think the Jury were told that . As far as I am aware.

[susan]

Alias sorry I think you are being to kind to Miss Julie don't think she was scared of anything all Julie was interested in what was best for Julie think the cops would be more scared of her Julie was very street wise and was a survivor and much stronger than Jeremy as a person and would have been the leader and when he turned she could not handle that as she was a control freak.

[Jane]

I think in his original statement he said she had not handled guns much - it was someone else who said she had gone on a shooting trip - but I don't think the Jury were told that . As far as I am aware.

I thought a cousin said she'd accompanied them to Scotland on a shooting party.

[Jan]

I thought a cousin said she'd accompanied them to Scotland on a shooting party.

yes that's what I thought. I don't think it came from JB - at least not in his original statements.

[Adam]

I did,but it must be a different edition. Are you stalling..

Stalling. I gave you the exact page number.

It is in the chapter when Julie gives evidence.

[Caroline]

Page 203 is in Chapter 19 Steve!!