Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...

[grahameb]

Julie testified that she said 'Don't be so ridiculous' & 'yeah sure' (sarcastically) when Jeremy said 'it's now or never'.

Being treated with contempt by his own girlfriend. Was that the final motivation for Jeremy ?

Who said she did say that?

[Adam]

Talking of relatives. Bobby Boutflor has said 'It is beyond comprehension how any person of average intelligence could have any doubt that he was convicted for these murders on irrefutable evidence'.

[grahameb]

Talking of relatives. Bobby Boutflor has said 'It is beyond comprehension how any person of average intelligence could have any doubt that he was convicted for these murders on irrefutable evidence'.

By saying that is he in effect telling his readers that he is of average intelligence?

[Jane]

I  think June might have kept it "in house" had the culprit been DB,not wishing to rock the boat with her husband. Thinking about the inappropriate laughter remark made by Dr. Hugh Ferguson does disturb me and reminds me of something Patti said a while back that we're always coming across details in this case which don't seem to add up.

I think you're absolutely correct. I wonder too, how such an omission would have weighed on her mind. As a Christian, might she not have seen this as lying by omission? I'm obviously thinking here of her own precarious mental balance. I'd forgotten Dr F's remark about Sheila's inappropriate laughter but I do find it disturbing. Whilst it appears to me that Sheila wasn't given the time in hospital necessary to oversee her drugs routine to ensure it was balanced, I do appreciate that as it was a private hospital and she hadn't been on a section when she was admitted, they had no authority to keep her there if she wanted to leave. My view is changed that she was BADLY let down but the fault my not ENTIRELY be with her doctors.

[Jane]

Talking of relatives. Bobby Boutflor has said 'It is beyond comprehension how any person of average intelligence could have any doubt that he was convicted for these murders on irrefutable evidence'.

I wonder what he had to say of those with higher intelligence?

[Jane]

Who said she did say that?

Only Adam, which rather proves the point about him I made earlier. Undoubtedly, he can claim it's correct because HALF of it is, but "Yeah right" YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!! Not in anything I've seen...........but I could be wrong :D

[Adam]

Only Adam, which rather proves the point about him I made earlier. Undoubtedly, he can claim it's correct because HALF of it is, but "Yeah right" YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!! Not in anything I've seen...........but I could be wrong :D

It is in Wilke's book.

Do you think it was the final motivator for Jeremy to commit the crime ?

[Steve_uk]

It is in Wilke's book.

Do you think it was the final motivator for Jeremy to commit the crime ?

I don't remember that Adam. It was the middle of the night and from what I recall Julie told him to go back to bed.

[Caroline]

Julie testified that she said 'Don't be so ridiculous' & 'yeah sure' (sarcastically) when Jeremy said 'it's now or never'.

Being treated with contempt by his own girlfriend. Was that the final motivation for Jeremy ?

No

[Adam]

I don't remember that Adam. It was the middle of the night and from what I recall Julie told him to go back to bed.

It is the 10am call. Not the 3am call.

[mike tesko]

Talking of relatives. Bobby Boutflor has said 'It is beyond comprehension how any person of average intelligence could have any doubt that he was convicted for these murders on irrefutable evidence'.

Is this the very same 'Bobby' Boutflour, who testified during the trial, that he wouldn't benefit financially from the death of the victims, should Jeremy be convicted?

[Adam]

No

Agree. Everything was in place beforehand.

Supper confirmed everyone was staying at WHF. The gun was loaded. Window lossened with the found hacksaw. Bike at the cottage.

Julie dismissing him just made him more determined. And motivated to phone Julie at 3am to prove his bravery.

[Adam]

No

Jeremy had taken a recent special interest on Sheilas medical state & when they were all staying atvWHF. According to Colin Caffell.

[Caroline]

Talking of relatives. Bobby Boutflor has said 'It is beyond comprehension how any person of average intelligence could have any doubt that he was convicted for these murders on irrefutable evidence'.

I'd say the same thing in respect to anyone believing the silencer evidence!!

[maggie]

I was the person authorized by Jeremy to provide Roger Wilkes with access to all the then available material for use in his book, we didn't have all the material at that time, that is available today. This was arranged as part of a package, where Roger Wilkes would pay for the cost of a provisional report from the New York ballistics and blood spatter expert, Herbert Leon McDonnell...
Nobody had any proof then, that additional silencers had been given to police by the relatives, if we didn't know, how could Wilkes have known - Wilkes book, is a factual historical account of what was known about, and could be proven at the time....

Very true Mike. Scott Lomax has since written a book which divulges much of the evidence which has come to light in the intervening years. Most guilters accuse him of being biased simply because they don't want to take on the new evidence which is mainly in favour of Jeremy so therefore goes against their fixed opinions.
Let's hope Mason Doyle's book will fill in many unanseered questions and Jeremy will be freed.