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« Reply #105 on: February 18, 2014, 08:51:PM »
Jeremy will never have a new trial, he will never get ot of prison. I believe Aunt Agatha when she says that this has become a political case. Too big a scandal if the truth gets out. I hope I am wrong.

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« Reply #106 on: February 18, 2014, 09:09:PM »
Jeremy will never have a new trial, he will never get ot of prison. I believe Aunt Agatha when she says that this has become a political case. Too big a scandal if the truth gets out. I hope I am wrong.



Alias, much as I really, REALLY don't want to, I have to agree with you. I sincerely hope this pessimism is a passing thing, knowing me, it probably is :) but this without doubt is probably one of the hottest political potatoes EVER and IMO, if the truth of Jeremy's innocence is out there, somebody already knows and is taking OR has already taken steps to prevent it coming out, which leaves the, to my mind, undesirable possibility of getting him out on a technicality, which at the moment I think is unlikely. I'm sure I'll feel more like myself tomorrow :D :D :D

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #107 on: February 18, 2014, 09:13:PM »
Jeremy will never have a new trial, he will never get ot of prison. I believe Aunt Agatha when she says that this has become a political case. Too big a scandal if the truth gets out. I hope I am wrong.

i think if enough pressure builds they will have to give him a new trail.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #108 on: February 18, 2014, 09:17:PM »
i think if enough pressure builds they will have to give him a new trail.



I really do hope you're right, Nugs.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #109 on: February 18, 2014, 09:19:PM »


Alias, much as I really, REALLY don't want to, I have to agree with you. I sincerely hope this pessimism is a passing thing, knowing me, it probably is :) but this without doubt is probably one of the hottest political potatoes EVER and IMO, if the truth of Jeremy's innocence is out there, somebody already knows and is taking OR has already taken steps to prevent it coming out, which leaves the, to my mind, undesirable possibility of getting him out on a technicality, which at the moment I think is unlikely. I'm sure I'll feel more like myself tomorrow :D :D :D

If there is not much public interest about the case in Britain (no celebs speaking up for Jeremy, lots of press, etc), nothing will happen. There needs to be SUBSTANTIAL pressure to get things moving, and there just isn´t.
I don´t think I will regain any positivity when it comes to this case. Sorry to say. It has been years and years, nothing has happened, not many care, and even less know about the dodgy "evidence" used in the trial to convict a possibly innocent man. People simply don´t care to educate themselves about the case - it is too complicated.
Relatives who gain EVERYTHING find the main piece of evidence to convict Bamber after police HAD searched WHF, take it home, handle it, maybe unscrew it, scrape blood off with a razor blade (they say). have differing stories about how it was found, keep it for a while, THEN turn it over to police who use it as a paper weight on their desk. There ought to be an outcry - there just isn´t.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #110 on: February 18, 2014, 09:19:PM »
well theres no way this case is going away people arnt going to just forget it.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #111 on: February 18, 2014, 09:26:PM »
well theres no way this case is going away people arnt going to just forget it.

There is no massive demand to have the case reexamined. For instance it would be interesting to have it investigated how/why/WHO destroyed all physical evidence in 1996. I cannot believe the police just got away with that. OOOOOOPS is not enough!

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« Reply #112 on: February 18, 2014, 09:29:PM »
As I repeat quite often, if Jeremy had relatives who cared enough to fight for him, he would be in a different position. Unfortunately he has no one who is driven by enough passion to cause havoc to bring this case to everyone's attention.  I fear that's his problem and why he's still where he is.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #113 on: February 18, 2014, 09:32:PM »
it takes little to be arrested Maggie and takes even less to be believed if four people say something against one person they will win hands down.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #114 on: February 18, 2014, 09:32:PM »
As I repeat quite often, if Jeremy had relatives who cared enough to fight for him, he would be in a different position. Unfortunately he has no one who is driven by enough passion to cause havoc to bring this case to everyone's attention.  I fear that's his problem and why he's still where he is.

I think so too. What a fate!

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« Reply #115 on: February 18, 2014, 09:33:PM »
There is no massive demand to have the case reexamined. For instance it would be interesting to have it investigated how/why/WHO destroyed all physical evidence in 1996. I cannot believe the police just got away with that. OOOOOOPS is not enough!
I agree Alias and if he had relatives who loved and believed in him they could have raised the roof over that but thecestablishment seem to have got aay with it. Mike did his best but he was one man against the powers that be ...... very difficul, so shameful.

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« Reply #116 on: February 18, 2014, 09:37:PM »
As I repeat quite often, if Jeremy had relatives who cared enough to fight for him, he would be in a different position. Unfortunately he has no one who is driven by enough passion to cause havoc to bring this case to everyone's attention.  I fear that's his problem and why he's still where he is.



Absolutely Maggie. However good and caring his "team" may be, they're NOT a substitute for a family who'd keep putting pressure on until something got done.

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« Reply #117 on: February 18, 2014, 09:39:PM »
As I repeat quite often, if Jeremy had relatives who cared enough to fight for him, he would be in a different position. Unfortunately he has no one who is driven by enough passion to cause havoc to bring this case to everyone's attention.  I fear that's his problem and why he's still where he is.

what could we do that would cause havoc.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2014, 09:53:PM »
There is no massive demand to have the case reexamined. For instance it would be interesting to have it investigated how/why/WHO destroyed all physical evidence in 1996. I cannot believe the police just got away with that. OOOOOOPS is not enough!
I agree Alias and if he had relatives who loved and believed in him they could have raised the roof over that but the establishment seem to have got away with it. Mike did his best but he was one man against the powers that be ......  total disgrace imo.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2014, 09:53:PM »
Jeremy will never have a new trial, he will never get ot of prison. I believe Aunt Agatha when she says that this has become a political case. Too big a scandal if the truth gets out. I hope I am wrong.
I believe it will take something really big and undeniable to free him?