Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...

[grahameb]

http://www.innertemplelibrary.com/2010/07/jeremy-bamber-claims-he-was-framed-for-murder-by-cousins-daily-telegraph/


Jeremy says the relatives framed him.

Well he knows better than we do.

[mike tesko]

Evening of 6th August 1985 - June contacts Pamela, informs her that Sheila and the boys are currently staying with them at whf, and that on the following day, June intends to bring Sheila with the children along to see her, so that Pamela can have a look at her, because June tells Pamela that Sheila has been acting very strangely. Linked to this, was the fact that for some as yet inexplicable reason that June did not attend her regular Tuesday evening bible class...

Whatever that reason was for June not attending bible class on the evening of her death, surely must have had something to do with June not wanting to leave Sheila alone at the farmhouse with the children because of a genuine concern for everyone's safety, and well being. Indeed, this seems to fit in with what June told her sister Pamela later that same evening, making mention of the fact that June wanted Pamela to have a look at Sheila on the following day, because June said that Sheila had been acting very strangely...

What did June mean when she told Pamela that Sheila had been acting very strangely?

[mike tesko]

Evening of 6th August 1985 - June contacts Pamela, informs her that Sheila and the boys are currently staying with them at whf, and that on the following day, June intends to bring Sheila with the children along to see her, so that Pamela can have a look at her, because June tells Pamela that Sheila has been acting very strangely. Linked to this, was the fact that for some as yet inexplicable reason that June did not attend her regular Tuesday evening bible class...

Whatever that reason was for June not attending bible class on the evening of her death, surely must have had something to do with June not wanting to leave Sheila alone at the farmhouse with the children because of a genuine concern for everyone's safety, and well being. Indeed, this seems to fit in with what June told her sister Pamela later that same evening, making mention of the fact that June wanted Pamela to have a look at Sheila on the following day, because June said that Sheila had been acting very strangely...

What did June mean when she told Pamela that Sheila had been acting very strangely?

According to Jeremy, on the evening prior to the shootings, he had returned to the farmhouse at around supper time, to find his parents talking to Sheila about the possibility that she needed help with looking after the two boys, because she was not well enough to look after them, herself...

[mike tesko]

According to Jeremy, on the evening prior to the shootings, he had returned to the farmhouse at around supper time, to find his parents talking to Sheila about the possibility that she needed help with looking after the two boys, because she was not well enough to look after them, herself...

During conversations with Jeremy about this event, he repeatedly told me that throughout this occasion, that Sheila had remained impassive, choosing not to speak in objection to what her parents were speaking about at that time. It was as though Jeremy's sudden appearance in the kitchen at supper time in the middle of whatever his parents and Sheila were talking about, could not be spoken about openly by Sheila in Jeremy's presence. However, his parents continued to speak to Sheila about the possibility of getting social services involved, or to get back in touch with Sheila's social worker with a view of getting some support from that department...

[maggie]

Evening of 6th August 1985 - June contacts Pamela, informs her that Sheila and the boys are currently staying with them at whf, and that on the following day, June intends to bring Sheila with the children along to see her, so that Pamela can have a look at her, because June tells Pamela that Sheila has been acting very strangely. Linked to this, was the fact that for some as yet inexplicable reason that June did not attend her regular Tuesday evening bible class...
Whatever that reason was for June not attending bible class on the evening of her death, surely must have had something to do with June not wanting to leave Sheila alone at the farmhouse with the children because of a genuine concern for everyone's safety, and well being. Indeed, this seems to fit in with what June told her sister Pamela later that same evening, making mention of the fact that June wanted Pamela to have a look at Sheila on the following day, because June said that Sheila had been acting very strangely...
What did June mean when she told Pamela that Sheila had been acting very strangely?

Hi Mike, we will never know exactly but have always felt the telephone conversation between the sisters was very important. If only June had said a little more to Pamela but it certainly should have been taken more seriously.

[mike tesko]

Jeremy had seen Sheila in the fields during harvest time that same afternoon, when Sheila had come with one of her children to the tractor which Jeremy was working in, for a chat...

[mike tesko]

Jeremy had seen Sheila in the fields during harvest time that same afternoon, when Sheila had come with one of her children to the tractor which Jeremy was working in, for a chat...

Seemed odd to me, that during the afternoon of 6th August 1985, that Sheila should venture out to the fields to talk to Jeremy on the same day that Sheila had seemed impassive when later on that evening he had returned to the farmhouse at supper time, only to discover that Sheila's demeanour had seem somewhat subdued and strange. It puzzled me why there had been such a dramatic change in Sheila's demeanour within the space of a few hours, from being chatty one moment, and subdued and impassive the next. With this in mind I decided to question Jeremy about other matters which might be linked to what I am speaking about...

[mike tesko]

Hi Mike, we will never know exactly but have always felt the telephone conversation between the sisters was very important. If only June had said a little more to Pamela but it certainly should have been taken more seriously.

Hi Maggie,

I also believe that the telephone call between the two sisters was a significant catalyst for the events that followed, linked to what had gone on (historically) previously, between Sheila and a cousin, and June Bamber...

[mike tesko]

Inbreeding - through speaking with Jeremy on a few occasions, I was led to believe that there was widespread intimate relationships involving relatives of the immediate and distant families...

[mike tesko]

Inbreeding - through speaking with Jeremy on a few occasions, I was led to believe that there was widespread intimate relationships involving relatives of the immediate and distant families...

I know it may sound somewhat bizarre, but Jeremy led me to believe, that many friends and business associates of the Bamber family, were related to each other, through what Jeremy termed to be 'inbreeding'...

[mike tesko]

I know no-one is really interested in this, but Jeremy and self sat and discussed the possibility that Sheila's two boys had been fathered by Ralph Bamber...

[mike tesko]

I know no-one is really interested in this, but Jeremy and self sat and discussed the possibility that Sheila's two boys had been fathered by Ralph Bamber...

We felt that the truth about this ought really to be settled once and for all, but GDS put us in our place by saying that under no circumstances would he entertain having the bodies of the two child victims exhumed so that DNA tests could be carried out to determine whether or not Colin Caffell was the natural father. We even tried to persuade GDS to persue this matter by informing him that some bullets, or parts of bullets had not been recovered from both child victims during autopsy, and that by having the bodies exhumed, we could kill two birds with one stone, so to speak, because we had a genuine belief that not all the bullets which had been fired during the shootings had been manufactured by Ely...

GDS, was having none of it...

[Jane]

I know no-one is really interested in this, but Jeremy and self sat and discussed the possibility that Sheila's two boys had been fathered by Ralph Bamber...

Mike, I believe you're correct and perhaps your more intimate conversation with Jeremy should remain private rather than allowing the Red spies to make capital out of it.

[mike tesko]

It was during one of our discussions about apparent inbreeding of people who were close friends or associates of the Bamber family, that I first learned of the occasion when June Bamber had caught Sheila in the barn with a cousin in a very compromising sexual predicament...

[mertol22]

Hello Mertol,;long time no see. Hope you are good.

hello Maggie long time no swimming pool im ok hopefully I will be visiting a bit more now