Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...

[mike tesko]

what is the coded message supposed to say .other than please.mike?

It is now understood to be a cry for help, to make someone "please let us go", and the fact that before Sheila could record anything further, that 15 shots had been fired...

[mike tesko]

It is now understood to be a cry for help, to make someone "please let us go", and the fact that before Sheila could record anything further, that 15 shots had been fired...

Ralph and June Bamber were shot a total of 15 times...

Alternatively, Daniel Caffel (5), Nicholas Caffell (3) and June Bamber(7) were shot a total of 15 times...

[mike tesko]

The call from the farm to Jeremy's cottage, "He has got the gun, he has gone crazy, come quickly", or "She has got the gun, she has gone crazy, come quickly", or "Sheila has got the gun, she has gone crazy, come quickly"...

This suggests that by the time the call from the scene to Jeremy at his cottage, was that Ralph had not by that stage been shot, but that the other three victims (June, and two child victims) had been...

[mike tesko]

The call from the farm to Jeremy's cottage, "He has got the gun, he has gone crazy, come quickly", or "She has got the gun, she has gone crazy, come quickly", or "Sheila has got the gun, she has gone crazy, come quickly"...

This suggests that by the time the call from the scene to Jeremy at his cottage, was that Ralph had not by that stage been shot, but that the other three victims (June, and two child victims) had been...

If this indeed is what unfolded, everyone automatically assumes that Sheila must have been the shooter, but what if she had the cousin as an accomplice, or enemy, and he was the shooter of the mother and the two child victims...

[bigdaveglasgow75]

ive seen the photos of sheila.there was definately a strugle between her and someone else.there was also a strugle between nevile and someone else.if it was jeremy then jeremy would have hade to have overpowered both.or sheila strugled with nevil.although there is no nail damage from what i can see.in the absence of not knowing who was shot first. or what order.it is difficult from an objective point of view.

[mike tesko]

Why would the cousin, want to shoot dead June Bamber, and the two children...

[bigdaveglasgow75]

mike your contradicting yourself.and quoting yourself.your not making sece .are you suggesting sheila had an accomplice>>> mike.

[mike tesko]

ive seen the photos of sheila.there was definately a strugle between her and someone else.there was also a strugle between nevile and someone else.if it was jeremy then jeremy would have hade to have overpowered both.or sheila strugled with nevil.although there is no nail damage from what i can see.in the absence of not knowing who was shot first. or what order.it is difficult from an objective point of view.

Marks from guns barrel, on Ralphs arm...

[bigdaveglasgow75]

who r u suggesting was sheilas accomplice.and what was her  motive.and why did she end up dead mike.plus i dont think jeremy would think that either mike???

[bigdaveglasgow75]

who r u suggesting was sheilas accomplice.and what was her  motive.and why did she end up dead mike.plus i dont think jeremy would think that either mike???

[mike tesko]

who r u suggesting was sheilas accomplice.and what was her  motive.and why did she end up dead mike.plus i dont think jeremy would think that either mike???

Sheila's accomplice was the cousin, he didn't kill her though, police did...

Jeremy still thinks Sheila shot the others, and then took her own life...

[bigdaveglasgow75]

if jeremy says this then im starting to lose faith in him.he said it himself it was either him or sheila.i dont beleive  it.how did the third party get away.wene the cops turned up.all the doors and windows from the inside.why sheila kill herself if both parties motive was  money.and jeremy has always maintained that the call nevile made to cops.proves that sheila had the guns.i dont understand tell me your answers to what i have said.

[bigdaveglasgow75]

what cousin?and who were they going to blame if sheila killed herself.

[mike tesko]

Cousin came to farmhouse during early hours of the morning to put an end to the trouble which was brewing around his relationship between Sheila and himself, intending to kill June, and get rid of the children, who he could have fathered...



N(O) M(N) H(E) "One He Hides"...

[bigdaveglasgow75]