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Offline mike tesko

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The first shot consisting of the original badly fragmented PV/20 bullet inflicted whilst Sheila was stood upright, the second shot inflicted whilst Sheila was laid down her body turned ever so slightly on its right hand side...

Sheila was unconscious at the time the second shot was inflicted, hence why there is no sign of any facial grimace, or wide open, or tightly shut, eyes...

The vertical blood flow from the first wound caused by bullet PV/20, being evidence that she was fully conscious and standing upright at the time she received that initial shot, in keeping with how Woodcock shot her downstairs in the kitchen. The horizontal blood flow emanating from the upper fatal bullet wound beneath the chin, the corners of her mouth and nostril, some of which flowed backward into the left eye socket, is evidence that she was unconscious and laid on the floor when she was killed off by the fatal shot under the chin (bullet PV19)...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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Sheila was not shot twice by the same gun, whilst she was laid there on the bedroom floor, as depicted in the so called official crime scene photographs, it can be proven that she could not possibly have been shot twice, by use of the same gun, whilst her body was where police ended up photographing it, from 10 O'clock, onward...
« Last Edit: January 18, 2014, 11:52:AM by mike tesko »
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Offline campion

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Mike, Hi -

From the Subject of this Topic, (Raid team were INTENT on shooting Sheila on sight upon entering whf) ,  do you actually mean there was a "SHOOT TO KILL" policy in force within EP for the Assault ( on the Back-kitchen Door), for entry to the premises?
With this in mind, and notwithstanding any evidence of such, is it known if Woodcock, who allegedly forced the Entry, was a Special Forces Officer seconded from the military?
We have been informed that he was the officer wielding the Sledge Hammer, if that was indeed the instrument employed to force the Entry.
If his hands were 'busy' wielding the assault implement, in this. 'scenario', it is most likely that he was armed with a 'Handgun'.
It is my understanding that UK Police Forces use Walther pistols, but Military Personnel are equipped with the Models Type 'Q', for emergency use.(I.e. Q = quick firing)
My question is:-
  Is their any information to be gleaned from the "fragmented" bullet PV20, to indicate that it had been fired from a handgun?

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Well this latest piece of information will certainly destroy any myths about Sheila being unable to handle a rifle.
A sad tale in Detroit where a 4 year old found a rifle under her grandfathers' bed and shot dead her 4 year old cousin,,accidentally. A gun expert explained that even a 4 year old wouldn't have any problem aiming at whoever he or she was going to shoot.

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Who put the opened bible next to Sheila upstairs ? It was not Sheila as she shot herself downstairs.

Must have been the police.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Caroline

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Who put the opened bible next to Sheila upstairs ? It was not Sheila as she shot herself downstairs.

Must have been the police.

Well, why don't you tell us your scenario about the bible Adam, how it got there and where the stain came from?
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My scenario does mention the bible.
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Offline Caroline

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My scenario does mention the bible.

where did the stain come from?
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Offline Adam

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Jeremy.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Jeremy.



I wasn't aware that Jeremy had been wounded.

Offline Caroline

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Jeremy.

Come on!! Elaborate oh he of the bestest scenario!! Lets hear your grand theory!! Where did the stain come from?
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Come on!! Elaborate oh he of the bestest scenario!! Lets hear your grand theory!! Where did the stain come from?



Caroline, I think you may have caused him to give his little grey cells the sort of work out they've not previously experienced :D

Offline Caroline

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You seem to have gone quiet Adam? This is a whole new opportunity to make another grand pitch!! How did the stain come from Jeremy? Are you suggesting it was his palm print? Well, before you suggest that - we know the dimensions of the bible and we recreated it - Jeremy's hands were TOOOOOOOO BIG!!!! And had it been Jeremy's print, they would have used it in evidence as it plants him at the scene - with no arguments!!
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Caroline, I think you may have caused him to give his little grey cells the sort of work out they've not previously experienced :D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D we need a cross-eyed emoticon.
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Just glad Adam does not work in law enforcement - what a horror!