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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: A Killer Will Always Leave Something.
« Reply #105 on: January 10, 2014, 10:04:PM »
" So she's finally done it ",,said Colin.Which were the first words out of his mouth on hearing the news of the tragedy.  What EXACTLY did he know,,that we don't.  ?
I'm prepared to accept Sheila may have discussed suicide with Colin on a previous occasion,and also accept that those who have talked about suicide are statistically more likely to take their own lives. But Colin just wouldn't have countenanced giving control of the twins to Sheila had she uttered any threats towards them.

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« Reply #106 on: January 10, 2014, 10:37:PM »
I'm prepared to accept Sheila may have discussed suicide with Colin on a previous occasion,and also accept that those who have talked about suicide are statistically more likely to take their own lives. But Colin just wouldn't have countenanced giving control of the twins to Sheila had she uttered any threats towards them.




He was otherwise distracted anyway to have realised what went on half the time. Why didn't he take one of the twins to the doctors when the child suffered earache,instead of Sheila taking the flak from social services because she hadn't taken the child.? Where was Colin when Sheila bashed one of the boys in the face ? What about the fall from a car/taxi,where was Colin then ?
Every time Colin wasn't around,it seemed that one of the boys was injured in some way. 

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« Reply #107 on: January 10, 2014, 10:37:PM »
Then you have to assume steve that colin did not think Sheila really meant it or rather a figure of speech otherwise a gritty legal battle would have started .

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« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2014, 12:50:AM »
Sheila was not a danger to her sons-let's nail that big lie right now. Had they felt that way the twins would have told Colin. I also checked up on the "So she's finally done it" remark made by Colin on the doorstep,which was made upon learning of Sheila's death but before he had been informed his sons had also been slain. Had Nevill and June perceived their daughter as a threat they would have told Pamela on the telephone,and as for the gun lying on the settle in the scullery this had been done before according to Robert Boutflour's typewritten notes,evoking a fear from Nevill to him as well as to Barbara Wilson concerning the lethal cocktail of Jeremy alongside weapons.
Are you going to back this up with any evidence because it sounds an unlikely set of events.
      You agree that Colin remarked "so she's finally done it" but then go on to claim that this remark was upon hearing of Sheila's death but before being informed of the twins deaths.
      So you are claiming that Colin was told Sheila had killed herself and then a pause long enough to give a reply was left before the bearer of this tragic news added that the twins were also dead . Well whoever broke the news wasn't very tactful were they?
     
     Where is your evidence for this outlandish claim ?
     Whether or not the twins would have told Colin is pure conjecture on your part and is just a pointless unprovable claim.
     You do however claim to have knowledge of Colin first being told of Sheilas death and only uttering his remark prior to being to being told of the twins deaths so where is the evidence to support this somewhat unfeasible claim?

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« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2014, 12:54:AM »
Are you going to back this up with any evidence because it sounds an unlikely set of events.
      You agree that Colin remarked "so she's finally done it" but then go on to claim that this remark was upon hearing of Sheila's death but before being informed of the twins deaths.
      So you are claiming that Colin was told Sheila had killed herself and then a pause long enough to give a reply was left before the bearer of this tragic news added that the twins were also dead . Well whoever broke the news wasn't very tactful were they?
     
     Where is your evidence for this outlandish claim ?
     Whether or not the twins would have told Colin is pure conjecture on your part and is just a pointless unprovable claim.
     You do however claim to have knowledge of Colin first being told of Sheilas death and only uttering his remark prior to being to being told of the twins deaths so where is the evidence to support this somewhat unfeasible claim?
Well I read it only recently which is why it stuck in my mind. I will try to locate the source.

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« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2014, 01:41:AM »
I think  it must have been the Red Forum. Here is another anomaly which needs  to be addressed:http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,74.0.html

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« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2014, 01:45:AM »
I think  it must have been the Red Forum. Here is another anomaly which needs  to be addressed:http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,74.0.html
If I am meant to click on that link it doesn't work so spell it out

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« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2014, 01:52:AM »
If I am meant to click on that link it doesn't work so spell it out
Sheila allegedly wore a petticoat which was bloodstained but which was not found.

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« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2014, 02:33:AM »
Sheila allegedly wore a petticoat which was bloodstained but which was not found.
What is this in reference to?

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« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2014, 07:22:AM »
Well I read it only recently which is why it stuck in my mind. I will try to locate the source.



STEVE!!!!!!! What DO you mean, you've only recently read it????? You and I had this conversation AGES ago after you said that Colin didn't mean it when he said "So she's finally done it." However, because I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps I've misunderstood what you meant.

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« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2014, 07:26:AM »
Morning April

sadly you have not misunderstood what steve meant ;D

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« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2014, 07:42:AM »
Morning April

sadly you have not misunderstood what steve meant ;D



Susan, Good Morning :) I await his response with interest and an open mind ;D

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« Reply #117 on: January 11, 2014, 07:44:AM »
Sheila allegedly wore a petticoat which was bloodstained but which was not found.



Would that be over the jogging bottoms or UNDER the nightdress OR are you using diversion tactics here?

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« Reply #118 on: January 11, 2014, 07:48:AM »
April don't hold your breath ;D petticoat such an old fashioned word can't see Sheila ever having wore a petticoat tell steve it is known as an underslip ;D ;D ;D and not to be worn with jogging bottoms ;D

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« Reply #119 on: January 11, 2014, 01:11:PM »
From Colin's book,chapter one,

It was just after midday on Wednesday,7 August 1985,that I went to answer an unexpected ring on the doorbell - I was about to make lunch for myself.
'Mr.Colin Caffell?'
'Yes'
'Do you know Sheila Caffell?'
'Yes,she's my ex-wife.What's wrong?'
'I'm afraid we have to tell you that she's dead.'
Those words caught me completely off guard.
'Oh no,then she finally did it!' I said,almost thinking out loud.
With Bamb's recent history of mental illness,the possibility of suicide rang horribly true,but I didn't have a chance to think or ask questions.The policewoman went on:
'Are you the father of Nicholas and Daniel Caffell?'
'Yes,' I said,feeling a terrible panic rising inside me. I didn't want them to say anything else.
'I think we had better go into your flat,where it's more private.'
I then noticed that my neighbours had opened their door a chink.
Once inside,we went to my living - room,and the dark-haired policewoman vanished into the kitchen.
'Mr Caffell,I'm afraid I have to tell you that both your sons,Daniel and Nicholas, are also dead There has been a shooting at a farmhouse in Essex;there are also two other adults dead...'

(Note) I have only posted this excerpt from Colin's book for those who haven't read it,to dispel the myths of what Colin is alleged to have said or not to have said. The post may be an infringement of copyright laws and therefore I fully understand if it needs to be deleted.