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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2014, 06:23:PM »
As you well know the family were under threat from other outside sources and BW never said in the programme who JN was afraid of ( if he did ever voice this fear) how do you know it was not from the people who had actually threatened the family or even if SC had even got hold of a gun before ? You don't know. I was bought up in a farm house and also used to visit the main estate house ( owned by people who were well off) they are often a bit ramshackle and untidy and yes sometimes a bit dirty  . But we were always very healthy children. Also I can assure you we never appreciated the way we were brought up until much later in life. That's just normal when you get to your teens and early 20s .
Well  it's a pity Jeremy didn't appreciate what he had but left people to pick up five dead bodies whilst he was crying crocodile tears outside. It's pretty plain now to whom Nevill was alluding when discussing the shooting season where "accidents do happen" and I also reject the assertion even if it does come from Mike that the Bamber's were under surveillance when  anyone who lived through that time knows full well how the Conservatives starved the public services of money.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2014, 06:26:PM »
If Nevill had been so afraid of Jeremy, he would have locked away his firearms. He would have gone further than that: he would have forbidden Jeremy to come to the farm at all.
As it was, Nevill trusted Jeremy to come to the farm to work every day - with guns lying around. What you say is BS.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2014, 06:26:PM »
Well  it's a pity Jeremy didn't appreciate what he had but left people to pick up five dead bodies whilst he was crying crocodile tears outside. It's pretty plain now to whom Nevill was alluding when discussing the shooting season where "accidents do happen" and I also reject the assertion even if it does come from Mike that the Bamber's were under surveillance when  anyone who lived through that time knows full well how the Conservatives starved the public services of money.
But Steve, it doesn't make sense to claim Nevill was frightened of Jeremy and believed he wanted to kill him because he allowed him to use guns anytime he wanted or needed to and left them easily accessible even with the twins in the house.  I cannot believe Nevill would have behaved in such a way.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2014, 06:32:PM »
If Nevill had been so afraid of Jeremy, he would have locked away his firearms. He would have gone further than that: he would have forbidden Jeremy to come to the farm at all.
As it was, Nevill trusted Jeremy to come to the farm to work every day - with guns lying around. What you say is BS.
No June wouldn't have let Nevill throw Jeremy out. It's in Robert Boutflour's typewritten notes. Maybe that's why they reached the compromise solution of Bourtree Cottage. But the kitchen scene on 7 August 1985 speaks to me that maybe Nevill in the run-up to the murders saw Jeremy as a threat in the back of his mind..

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2014, 06:34:PM »
No June wouldn't have let Nevill throw Jeremy out. It's in Robert Boutflour's typewritten notes. Maybe that's why they reached the compromise solution of Bourtree Cottage. But the kitchen scene on 7 August 1985 speaks to me that maybe Nevill in the run-up to the murders saw Jeremy as a threat in the back of his mind..

I don´t buy that. His firearms were easily accessible to Jeremy, that wouldn´t have been the case if Nevill had the slightest fear of Jeremy.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2014, 06:36:PM »
Well  it's a pity Jeremy didn't appreciate what he had but left people to pick up five dead bodies whilst he was crying crocodile tears outside. It's pretty plain now to whom Nevill was alluding when discussing the shooting season where "accidents do happen" and I also reject the assertion even if it does come from Mike that the Bamber's were under surveillance when  anyone who lived through that time knows full well how the Conservatives starved the public services of money.



Now now Steve, this isn't a political forum and it very much depends on ones mind set as to whom Nevill was alluding. Furthermore can you please tell me why ANY child should be grateful to its' parents. It was THEIR choice to HAVE children and THEIR choice of how the should be bought up and what values they should be installed with.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2014, 06:39:PM »
But Steve, it doesn't make sense to claim Nevill was frightened of Jeremy and believed he wanted to kill him because he allowed him to use guns anytime he wanted or needed to and left them easily accessible even with the twins in the house.  I cannot believe Nevill would have behaved in such a way.
But maggie that could have been staged by Jeremy. Nobody visited the house much and from what we know of Nevill he was always careful with guns. I find it difficult to conceive the situation as Police found it  with ammunition in the kitchen for goodness sake as well as the gun left out in the den.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2014, 06:44:PM »
But maggie that could have been staged by Jeremy. Nobody visited the house much and from what we know of Nevill he was always careful with guns. I find it difficult to conceive the situation as Police found it  with ammunition in the kitchen for goodness sake as well as the gun left out in the den.
I don't think Nevill was careful with guns, I have read in the past there were guns in most rooms at times.  They were farmers, guns were just part of life, everything changed in the late 80s after a series of people went on killing sprees in Hungerford and of course the little children in Dunblaine.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2014, 06:50:PM »
I don't think Nevill was careful with guns, I have read in the past there were guns in most rooms at times.  They were farmers, guns were just part of life, everything changed in the late 80s after a series of people went on killing sprees in Hungerford and of course the little children in Dunblaine.





Maggie, I can confirm that back in the late 70's/early 80's IU was spending a lot of time at a farm. There was frequently a gun pointing at me from the utility room table as I walked through the door!!! To get to the gun cabinet it required one to go through the kitchen, down a long passage to the office beyond. It was usually too much effort.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2014, 11:03:AM »
Today, Monday 13th January, 2014 is :-

    "JEREMY BAMBER'S BIRTHDAY".   -  In a One Word Song, altogether now:- FIFTY THREE YEARS YOUNG. -

           "CONGRATULATIONS,". You deserve FREEDOM, at long last!


        "THE TRUTH NEVER SLEEPS, EVER!"     -  Mandy Rice-Davies )2013). #%€$¥ &£s.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2014, 12:47:PM »
Today, Monday 13th January, 2014 is :-

    "JEREMY BAMBER'S BIRTHDAY".   -  In a One Word Song, altogether now:- FIFTY THREE YEARS YOUNG. -

           "CONGRATULATIONS,". You deserve FREEDOM, at long last!


        "THE TRUTH NEVER SLEEPS, EVER!"     -  Mandy Rice-Davies )2013). #%€$¥ &£s.

Happy birthday, Jeremy Bamber.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2014, 02:29:PM »
 I second that,Campion.
 A Very Happy Birthday to Jeremy.x  May 2014 bring Good Luck.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2014, 04:12:PM »
Happy Birthday Jeremy !!

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2014, 07:04:PM »
I know April, how evocative. 
Why would a perfectly sane young man who had such an upbringing coolly shoot his family dead?  It doesn't make sense imo.

None of it makes sense.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Jeremy's New Year Blog 2013
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2014, 07:23:PM »
Alias I honestly feel Jeremy will gain his freedom and enjoy all that he has missed.  So many people have had their lives ruined because of MOJ's some just because they were Irish and they fitted the bill so lets fabricate the evidence how can these police officers live with themselves knowing they have sent innocent men to prison destroying their lives and that of their families if it had been accidentl it would be easier to comprehend but to deliberately fabricate evidence to get a conviction is a disgrace to mankind.  I think posters who think Jeremy Bamber is guilty that is their right but it is not necessary to be sarcastic and try and fabricate stories to make Jeremy out to be a truly horrible person he is serving a life sentence is that not enough for them.

Just because they are Irish ?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.