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Offline mike tesko

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If someone accuses the police of shooting dead their family, you would think that such a complaint would be taken seriously, but it appears not to be so, in this case...
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Offline mike tesko

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Why did Essex police keep details of this complaint secret, and suppress it...
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Offline mike tesko

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Details contained in police logs which place two bodies downstairs in the region of the kitchen, which were not properly disclosed, are capable of supporting Jeremy's complaint that police had shot and killed members of his family...
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Details contained in police logs which place two bodies downstairs in the region of the kitchen, which were not properly disclosed, are capable of supporting Jeremy's complaint that police had shot and killed members of his family...

So is the substitution of the original badly fragmented PV/20 bullet recovered from Sheila's neck, on 7th August 1985, during autopsy, which had become transformed into a whole bullet by 20th September 1985, enabling the prosecutions ballistic expert's to link it to a family owned rifle...
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Offline Roch

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Possibly because of two reasons. 

Firstly, it was an observation / opinion / claim made by Jeremy during a moment of intense pain / shock, as opposed to being an actual complaint.

Secondly, they could not investigate an incident regarding any blunders that they had only just begun to cover up themselves. 

« Last Edit: December 27, 2013, 12:02:PM by Roch »

Offline Jane

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Possibly because of two reasons. 

Firstly, it was an observation / opinion / claim made by Jeremy during a moment of intense pain / shock, as opposed to being an actual complaint.

Secondly, they could not investigate an incident regarding any blunders that they had only just begun to cover up themselves.



AND, if it hadn't been said in the presence of someone high up the chain of command it would have been "airbrushed" out of their memories.

Offline mike tesko

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Jeremy complained to a member of CA07, upon being told that all his family were dead inside the premises, that police who had gone in with guns had shot them all. Now at that stage, according to the contents of the logs, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female found upon entry to the kitchen, which CA07 had relayed to inspector Norman at 7:38am - now, if at the time Jeremy told CA07 that he thought police who had gone in had shot his family dead, two bodies (one dead male, and one dead female) had been found upon  entry to the premises, why is it that later on when it turns out that only one body was found in the kitchen, didn't it dawn upon the occupants of CA07 that there might be something in what Jeremy had said regarding the police shooting at least one member of his family...

I cannot see how the three police occupants (Bews, Myall and Saxby) CA07, could ignore the fact that they originally knew a dead male body, and a dead female body, had been found in the kitchen upon entry, and yet later, when it was being proposed that only one body had been found in the kitchen? Surely, they must have known, or knew at that stage, and even now, that something was wrong with the position of bodies found at the scene, at one stage or another...
« Last Edit: December 27, 2013, 12:48:PM by mike tesko »
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the officail blog say jeremy never claimed this.

Offline mike tesko

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the officail blog say jeremy never claimed this.

See PS Saxby witness statement - of course Jeremy made this complaint, I have letters somewhere written in Jeremy's own hand to me, where he discusses it...
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Offline mike tesko

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Bews must have known that the raid team originally found two bodies upon entering the kitchen, because he was a member of CA07 which relayed the crucial message to Inspector Norman in the control room at 7:38am...

The key point being, that two bodies were found upon entry, not that there was some sort of a mistake involving misidentification of one body from outside a kitchen window, which turned out to be the body of the opposite sex, once police got into the premises...
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Offline Roch

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the officail blog say jeremy never claimed this.

nugnug - any chance of a link please?

Offline mike tesko

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Why would PS Oliver Saxby make a witness statement saying Jeremy made a complaint to him regarding how the police who had gone into the farmhouse, had shot and killed his family, if it wasn't true?
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" Taff " Jones was adamant that Jeremy was innocent as he knew the raid team had bungled evidence.
The team hadn't even noticed that Sheila was still alive at this point and with only ONE gunshot in her neck.
We desperately need to see the notebook that was " stolen " from Taff Jones's premises !

This is where the whole cover-up lies.

Offline lookout

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E.P.have been " sitting " on this horrendous LIE for all these years.
 Withheld VITAL evidence that's robbed a man of his life.
 Did EP think it would all go away in the annals of time while Jeremy ( their patsy )  spent years in resigned  incarceration  ?.
Did EP honestly think/believe that " their mug " would accept that it must have been him,Jeremy ?

It's unforgiveable !
 
 Jeremy has proved himself the better man by his honesty,integrity and determination to prove his innocence and above all,the truth, with nothing to hide,,,while EP DO have something to hide by withholding evidence after all these years,a crime in itself,,besides the altering of statements and contamination of evidence.