Getting the facts right about what Ralph told Jeremy during brief phone call...

[mike tesko]

I would think it should be obvious, as to the reason why Jeremy's comments have become transformed, from "She has", to "Sheila has", because of the earlier call made to police by Ralph Bamber, since in that call (3.26am), Ralph makes mention of his daughter - so that by the time Jeremy makes his own call (3.36am) to police, introducing himself as Mr Jeremy Bamber, police interpret what Jeremy told them differently...

[mike tesko]

Add into the equation, that upon being told by police that all his family were dead, Jeremy set about accusing police of shooting dead all of his family...

[mike tesko]

Add into the equation, that upon being told by police that all his family were dead, Jeremy set about accusing police of shooting dead all of his family...

It is not every day you get a chance to accuse the police of shooting dead your family - but in Jeremy's case, on that occasion, it was true what he was alleging, police had shot dead at least one member of Jeremy's family, with the possibility that they mave have shot and killed two, and shot at and into bodies of victims who were already deceased...

[mike tesko]

It is not every day you get a chance to accuse the police of shooting dead your family - but in Jeremy's case, on that occasion, it was true what he was alleging, police had shot dead at least one member of Jeremy's family, with the possibility that they mave have shot and killed two, and shot at and into bodies of victims who were already deceased...

The allegation made by Jeremy that police who had entered the farmhouse and had shot and killed all of his family, was not far off the mark...

[mike tesko]

Consider for one moment, the opening paragraph of the typed scenes of crime report  - where it makes mention of the fact that someone has been shot, that someone has been killed, and that someone has committed suicide (source of information, not known) - what do you think all of this is about?

[mike tesko]

Consider for one moment, the opening paragraph of the typed scenes of crime report  - where it makes mention of the fact that someone has been shot, that someone has been killed, and that someone has committed suicide (source of information, not known) - what do you think all of this is about?

Ask yourselves why it was felt necessary to introduce four spent bullet cases (DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3, and DRH/4) into the main bedroom scenario? Was this manoeuvre linked to the suggestion that Ralph had been shot four times non fatally whilst present inside the main bedroom? Would it surprise you to know that Ralph was only shot non fatally once whilst upstairs, and three more times non fatally whilst he was downstairs in the kitchen. Four fatal bullets were pumped into the top back part of his skull as he sat perched on a large wooden chair behind the kitchen door - four shots fired by police...

This was one of the reasons why DC Hammersley vacated four exhibits to allow for the introduction of four bullet cases into the bedroom scene - linked to the accidental shooting of Sheila in the same bedroom by the original bullet PV/20...

[mike tesko]

13 spent bullet cases in and around the main bedroom, top landing, minus 4 bullet cases introduced by DC Hammersley upon instruction of PI 'Bob' Miller - leaves 9 spent bullet cases to be accounted for...

7 - June, 1 Ralph and 1 Sheila...

[mike tesko]

It appears, that something rather extraordinary occurred when the raid team and later, the group of training officers entered the building...

I am receiving intelligence that police fired more shots than was first thought, and that at least two of the five victims were shot at, wounded, or killed during the exercise of these duties by police...

Ralph...

Sheila...

and perhaps, June...

[mike tesko]

It appears, that something rather extraordinary occurred when the raid team and later, the group of training officers entered the building...

I am receiving intelligence that police fired more shots than was first thought, and that at least two of the five victims were shot at, wounded, or killed during the exercise of these duties by police...

Ralph...

Sheila...

and perhaps, June...

It has also been drawn to my attention that two separate batches of crime scene ammunition was submitted to the lab' for examination, on two separate occasions - one batch sent to the lab' at Huntingdon on 30th August 1985, and a second batch submitted to the same lab', on 20th September 1985...

[mike tesko]

I was informed some time ago that any police officer involved in the incident at whf, where deceased victims had been re-shot by police during a training exercise, would not face prosecution regarding the same, because you cannot be lawfully held accountable for shooting someone who was already dead...

[mike tesko]

Surely, heaven forbid, police involved at the scene in a training exercise, did not shoot live rounds from their weapons into the bodies of the deceased?

Surely not...

Surely...

[mike tesko]

Test fire of rifle 18, silencer and control ammunition took place involving comparison checks where fired control bullets were looked at alongside crime scene ammunition, after the first batch of crime scene ammunition was submitted to the lab', on 30th August - in accordance with details recorded on individual General Examination Records (prior to 20th September 1985)...

[mike tesko]

Test fire of rifle 18, silencer and control ammunition took place involving comparison checks where fired control bullets were looked at alongside crime scene ammunition, after the first batch of crime scene ammunition was submitted to the lab', on 30th August - in accordance with details recorded on individual General Examination Records (prior to 20th September 1985)...

The official test fire of rifle 18, silencer, and remaining 27 control bullets (DRH/42) took place between 20th September 1985, and 2nd October 1985...

There was a good reason why two separate batches of crime scene ammunition were sent to the lab' on two different occasions, and why those in one batch had had its packaging tampered with...

[Steve_uk]

By couching what Ralph Bamber may have said, "Sheila has got the gun",instead of, "She has got the gun", it sets up for an argument to be put that Jeremy was / is the killer..

But the only other female in the house was June Bamber,who was shot in bed and pinned down by the bullets which went through the pillow. I can't see how she could possibly have got hold of a rifle that morning..

[Alias]

But the only other female in the house was June Bamber,who was shot in bed and pinned down by the bullets which went through the pillow. I can't see how she could possibly have got hold of a rifle that morning..

Steve, I can with absolute honesty say that I agree with you a 100%. That must be a first!