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Re: Was Ralph Bamber tied up , at any stage before shootings commenced?
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2013, 01:38:PM »
Ligature marks on the arm:-

Mike, can you elaborate, I cannot see any ligature marks.

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Re: Was Ralph Bamber tied up , at any stage before shootings commenced?
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2013, 02:06:PM »
I can see the "indentations! but they appear to run vertically - rather than round the bottom of the arm where you would expect them to be. Also I would imagine they could have been made by possibly wrapping the body at some time? So it would depend when the photos were taken. Also we have to remember the infamous "training session" that the police carried out whilst the bodies were still in the house. (Still can not get my head round that  >:( ) so unfortunately we still don't know how they handled or moved the bodies during that period of time.  I would personally be asking them why they did not investigate the gouges - which do look to me as if they come from long nails. And I have got to say as a female once when I was being attacked my first instinct was to dig my nails in and scratch the person as hard as I could. So if Sheila and NB had an argument at some time before the shootings that is exactly what I would expect to see-especially if he was trying to calm her down and she was lashing out.

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Re: Was Ralph Bamber tied up , at any stage before shootings commenced?
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2013, 02:13:PM »
Rather than the marks looking like ligatures,they look as though the arm had been held up after death where the vein has shown up empty of blood .

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Re: Was Ralph Bamber tied up , at any stage before shootings commenced?
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2013, 02:42:PM »
Rather than the marks looking like ligatures,they look as though the arm had been held up after death where the vein has shown up empty of blood .
That is a good point and would explain why they run vertically.