The myth about a passive Sheila being "led" to her death

[nugnug]

how would he know it better than his sister she grew up there to.

[grahameb]

I read there are three bike routes to the house that avoid the main roads. A fit young farmer should be able to do this.

Mugford says she first saw the bike at Jeremys a few days beforehand. Jeremy did not confirm or deny this in the police interview transcripts.

Jeremy certainly did not get the bike for himself. He would not be seen dead on it. Why would Mugford need it ? She lived in Lewisham & would have been driven by Jeremy when visiting his cottage.

Of course the silly cow would. The bike was borrowed by Jeremy for her to ride.

[grahameb]

That is why I am on here. To find out new bits of information.

Then why use the term "she first saw the bike at Jeremys a few days beforehand"?

[Adam]

May I enquire, what size is that?  Sounds like flim flam to me.

I mentioned before I am 6 feet & 13 stone. Handsome to !

[grahameb]

I have several years experience of being around Jeremys size.

I have also had physical contact with women ! So know how strong, heavy they are etc.

Old Chinese proverb: "When in deep water it is advisable to shut mouth"

[Caroline R]

I mentioned before I am 6 feet & 13 stone. Handsome to !

Yeah

[grahameb]

Not really. He knows the layout of the house. I could walk around my family house in the dark easily. The distance from Sheila's room to the main bedroom is not far.

Answer this one then: Why do you always stub your toe when you aren't wearing any slippers?

[Caroline R]

Answer this one then: Why do you always stub your toe when you aren't wearing any slippers?

Well, Neville's slippers were in Sheila's room, maybe Jeremy planted them there (while switching the phones) so she wouldn't bang her toe and awake from her catatonic state? 

[maggie]

Well, Neville's slippers were in Sheila's room, maybe Jeremy planted them there (while switching the phones) so she wouldn't bang her toe and awake from her catatonic state? 

Must have been part of the plan, Caroline 

[Adam]

Answer this one then: Why do you always stub your toe when you aren't wearing any slippers?

I have no slippers.

[Adam]

Talking of the phones it is quite plausible that if Jeremy committed the crime, he would have moved the bedroom phone downstairs afterwards. To explain why Neville was in the kitchen.

It may also explain why Neville went downstairs. Upon entry the kitchen phone may have been taken off the hook. This disabled all other phones in the house as there was only one line.

Dont know why the kitchen phone should be unplugged & in another part of the kitchen if it was in perfect working order.

[Adam]

Yeah

 

[Patti]

I would like to address this myth in a seperate thread. I see it as an important piece of the puzzle. Whenever "nons" are asked where Sheila was while the rest of the family was being killed, the answer is almost always: she slept through it all, then Jeremy came to her room and "led her" to their parents´ bedroom and killed her. During the whole thing, Sheila was cooperative and passive.
First of all, I do not believe Sheila COULD have slept through the killings, it would have been noisy, dogs barking, screaming, shots, commotion; but let us say she did.
WHY would Jeremy, who allegedly had preplanned the whole thing and wanted it to appear that Sheila committed suicide after having killed the rest of her family, choose to lead her to a room full of blood and the corpse of her dead mother? Wouldn´t that be sure to upset Sheila? Nons, why? How did he manage to, in the first place, to maintain her cooperation in her own killing, not to mention IN that particular, blood-filled room with her dead mother in it?
Does this make sense to you?

Hi Alias

I can't make head nor tail of it even without Jeremy or with him being there. None of it makes sense to me.  I find difficult to work out any scenario, no matter how hard I try. 

One thing I would like to know is the layout of the stairs...The stairs in the photograph with the rifle leaning on the window for example...does this lead to a landing....I don't think its the main stairs that lead downstairs.....

[Adam]

Of course the silly cow would. The bike was borrowed by Jeremy for her to ride.

Sorry. My mistake.

[lookout]

Jeremys' case is being presented to the CCRC next month. That's determination for you !