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Offline Roch

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PII / missing / lost / destroyed
« on: March 07, 2011, 12:46:AM »
Hi could anyone please indicate if there exists on this forum, a thread that groups or labels those documents allegedly withheld under PII / are missing / declared lost  / declared destroyed.  For example, a chronological list of: whose pocket books, which logs, whose statement etc etc.  Obviously the defence team will have looked at the potential time-frames and dates to try and deduce from those, the actual significance of the missing docs re piecing together what actually happened. 

References to this kind of stuff is littered throughout various threads / posts.  I just wondered whether a chronological list of them (perhaps with a brief explanation of their significance) might prove a handy reference point for posters. 

I understand that the defence team allege hundreds of thousands of docs here, so what i am pointing to are docs, at this point, that are known to have KEY relevance. 
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Re: PII / missing / lost / destroyed
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 08:11:AM »
Hi could anyone please indicate if there exists on this forum, a thread that groups or labels those documents allegedly withheld under PII / are missing / declared lost  / declared destroyed.  For example, a chronological list of: whose pocket books, which logs, whose statement etc etc.  Obviously the defence team will have looked at the potential time-frames and dates to try and deduce from those, the actual significance of the missing docs re piecing together what actually happened. 

References to this kind of stuff is littered throughout various threads / posts.  I just wondered whether a chronological list of them (perhaps with a brief explanation of their significance) might prove a handy reference point for posters. 

I understand that the defence team allege hundreds of thousands of docs here, so what i am pointing to are docs, at this point, that are known to have KEY relevance.
... Good suggestion...
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Re: PII / missing / lost / destroyed
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 08:55:PM »
Are you volunteering then Mike?  8)

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 04:50:PM »
Are you volunteering then Mike?  8)
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Re: PII / missing / lost / destroyed
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2011, 11:26:PM »
DC Whiddon's report might make for interesting reading.


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Re: PII / missing / lost / destroyed
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 03:27:PM »
I'm actually gobsmacked at the items they chose to destroy! Video footage, records of the phone calls from BT  :o 

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 03:35:PM »
what time are the ccrc going to announce their decision?

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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2011, 04:17:PM »
Could the black Hugo Boss suit be his funeral attire?  That was pricey gear even in those days.

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Re: PII / missing / lost / destroyed
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2011, 04:21:PM »
I'm actually gobsmacked at the items they chose to destroy! Video footage, records of the phone calls from BT  :o

Hard to fathom!

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2011, 04:50:PM »
what time are the ccrc going to announce their decision?

Today may be the deadline for the the defences response to the initial decision, but I'd then expect there to be a period of time where the CCRC peruse any response from the defence. I doubt the final decision will be made until at the very least two or three weeks time if not longer.

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 11:01:PM »
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B5DLsf0UggyWNmQ1NzQyNDQtOWMwYS00NTBmLWFkNWEtY2I4NGM5NzYyOWQ1&hl=en

Entries 598 & 599

In 1985... what exactly, would have been meant by the description, 'British Telecom extract of calls'?

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2011, 01:26:AM »
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B5DLsf0UggyWNmQ1NzQyNDQtOWMwYS00NTBmLWFkNWEtY2I4NGM5NzYyOWQ1&hl=en

Entries 598 & 599

In 1985... what exactly, would have been meant by the description, 'British Telecom extract of calls'?

They were trunk calls, something to do with New Zealand i think.

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2011, 11:12:AM »
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B5DLsf0UggyWNmQ1NzQyNDQtOWMwYS00NTBmLWFkNWEtY2I4NGM5NzYyOWQ1&hl=en

Entries 598 & 599

In 1985... what exactly, would have been meant by the description, 'British Telecom extract of calls'?

They were trunk calls, something to do with New Zealand i think.

I'm trying to work out if the defense imply that these relate to the two specific calls, i.e. one from WHF and one from 9 Head St. What exactly is meant by 'extracts'?  Recordings?  Or, do the defense imply that they are the 'rudimentary' records of the calls for a certain period i.e. bills for August '85, for both lines? 

paulg.. where does the trunk calls to New Zealand suggestion originate for these two exhibits?
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Re: PII / missing / lost / destroyed
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2011, 02:54:PM »
Yes, the defence is promoting the theory that two calls were made to police. This off course we know to be balderdash...the only call was made to the police by Jeremy himself.