Question Re 'Firearms Team Are In Conversation'

[lookout]

My word,,No-Bits,,you've really excelled yourself with that post,,and I feel that this is the " real " you at last. The post in general is a fair one which doesn't give that much away,,except that you veer on the guilty side of things,,which is your,and everyone else's prerogative who think on the same lines as yourself.
Neverthless,,it does stress that because none of us were there when the tragedy happened,,so we've more or less had to rely on those who were there,,and their commentaries purporting to the case.
However,,we all know how wrong the police can be,,even in a crime of this magnitude,,so it's fair to say,with that in mind,,that one tends to do " their own " investigating.
Remembering the case when it actually happened,,I'd told myself all those years ago that he wasn't guilty,,and how easy it was to blame the last man standing.
We also know that these type of murders are nearly always carried out by a known member of the family,in fact it's a pretty high percentage,,,though some would argue that " Jeremy " wasn't a true member of the family,,if,and when it suited.

My argument is that a lot of what Jeremy had said,and joked about in the past,,were conveniently misconstrued at the trial,,and I,and many others felt that this was wholly unfair because seeing that there was no hard evidence to convict him,,that the case was built on hearsay only and not absolute fact that he'd committed the murders that night.
It's true at this stage to state that it's Jeremys' word against the whole world that he says he's innocent,,,but it's up to the whole world to prove that he is innocent,,and by doing that takes more than 19 days in a courtroom of people who hadn't studied the case in minute detail.

That said,,I remain ever hopeful of his full release in the not too distant future.Full release meaning not on licence,,no illegal gagging orders,,but a full pardon and exoneration from his purported crime.

[susan]

Hi lookout another fair honest post.  Will need to go and have a rest all too much for my brain to absorb

[No-Bits]

My word,,No-Bits,,you've really excelled yourself with that post,,and I feel that this is the " real " you at last.....................................

Actually I don't believe a word of what I posted, I'm clearly trying to manipulate other people round to my way of thinking. 

[grahameb]

Hello Patti very good response to the post No Bits put up.  We human beings to a certain extent all believe what we perceive the truth to be.  My knowledge on the Bamber case is very limited but I have not seen hard evidence indicating Jeremy is guilty as indeed is Sheila.  I see so many flaws in the theories pointing to Jeremy and Sheila I try to keep an open mind but whoever was responsible for these horrendous murders I feel is not Jeremy Bamber.  Going onto Mason Doyle's book he has promised us a book based on facts and not speculation or conjecture and I feel with his record as a writer we are going to get a true fair assessment of the murders at WHF and I for one cannot wait for the book as it will I am sure clear up so many confusing issues in my head.

I will just say this. I have known the case from the beginning and as soon as I heard the verdict it didn't sit right with me. I felt that something just didn't tie in. Especially when I found the case being discussed on here all these years later and discovered that the jury was not in full possession of the facts. That either some evidence was apparently either witheld from the jury. Or was not available at the time.

Then to discover that although appeals were still in process an enormous amount of evidence had been destroyed by the police, including tapes of conversations that could either confirm or deny certain disputed documents. Too much of a coincidence if you ask me? There are of course doubts in my mind as to his guilt or innocence. But that which I particularly dislike about our "justice" system is the "deals" the police make with key witnesses so that these people eg: JM  in this case get off without a blight on their character and can go on to be looked at as models of the community.

I believe that our justice system should be just that. A "justice" system. where everything is transparent and that justice is seen to be done. To label so called supporters imbeciles as a certain group of people have done in the past and as far as I know still do and much worse and even threaten those who believe JB to be innocent I personally find obnoxious. That kind of person does themselves no favours. These are the things that I oppose. But having said all that, he may indeed be guilty? The Hall confession made me think that whilst a person may profess their innocence and appear to be upright and honest, even to fool his wife. But still be a psychopath who had come to believe his own lies. So at the moment my feet are in both camps. The human heart truly is deceitdul above all things and desparately wicked. And to quote Will Shakespeare, "A man may smile and smile and be a villian".