Truth of the night before

[tyler]

It was either that or Jeremy fondling Angi Greaves on a double bed at the Park Lane Hilton waving a cheque for double that amount..

Steve,do you suppose that the vision of Jeremy fondling Angi Greaves (as new lady of the manor) on the double bed at whf is what led Julie to concoct her story that Jeremy killed his family?

Anyhow, I wanted to to point out that according to Sue Battersby's statement,June telephoned somebody that evening and told them that she was worried about Sheila. (someone from bible class maybe,hence her not attending)?
Also,as opposed to Sheila being vacant that night,(Im not disagreeing that she wasn't),schizophrenic's have split personalities and can change in an instant. Sheila's doctor stated that whilst being treated in hospital they tried halving her meds and she became paranoid,delusional and (more tellingly) became hostile with the nursing staff.

[Caroline R]

Steve,do you suppose that the vision of Jeremy fondling Angi Greaves (as new lady of the manor) on the double bed at whf is what led Julie to concoct her story that Jeremy killed his family?

Anyhow, I wanted to to point out that according to Sue Battersby's statement,June telephoned somebody that evening and told them that she was worried about Sheila. (someone from bible class maybe,hence her not attending)?
Also,as opposed to Sheila being vacant that night,(Im not disagreeing that she wasn't),schizophrenic's have split personalities and can change in an instant. Sheila's doctor stated that whilst being treated in hospital they tried halving her meds and she became paranoid,delusional and (more tellingly) became hostile with the nursing staff.

And yet they halved it again and left her to her own devices.

[Steve_uk]

The murders were planned,the telephone call from Nevill is ludicrous,Jeremy had no alibi,there's nothing to link Sheila forensically with the murders,Jeremy's treatment of Police during questioning as a suspect was a disgrace..

I could go on..

[mertol22]

The murders were planned,the telephone call from Nevill is ludicrous,Jeremy had no alibi,there's nothing to link Sheila forensically with the murders,Jeremy's treatment of Police during questioning as a suspect was a disgrace..

I could go on..

A piece of dirt a year or so ago steve refused to leave a court cell to attend trial was that a disgrace in some countries you will be dragged on the floor to attend under a rifle at your face I think you have it round the wrong way.

[Steve_uk]

A piece of dirt a year or so ago steve refused to leave a court cell to attend trial was that a disgrace in some countries you will be dragged on the floor to attend under a rifle at your face I think you have it round the wrong way.

They're not all miscarriages of justice you know. In my opinion Jeremy Cartland,Jonathan Jones,Sheila Bowler,Sally Clark,Eddie Gilfoyle,Susan May, Lisa and Michelle Taylor are all as guilty as hell..

[mertol22]

They're not all miscarriages of justice you know. In my opinion Jeremy Cartland,Jonathan Jones,Sheila Bowler,Sally Clark,Eddie Gilfoyle,Susan May, Lisa and Michelle Taylor are all as guilty as hell..

the names you quote have no bearing here only jb does

[Steve_uk]

the names you quote have no bearing here only jb does

In case the post gets removed for libel let me put it more generically: people commit murder for their own advantage,they maintain their innocence at all costs, then rely on public pressure and immature prison guards getting the jitters to secure their release.

[Caroline R]

In case the post gets removed for libel let me put it more generically: people commit murder for their own advantage,they maintain their innocence at all costs, then rely on public pressure and immature prison guards getting the jitters to secure their release.

Actually Steve, it is VERY rare for a guilty person to maintain their innocence for this long and jittery prison guards won't secure anyone's release 

[mertol22]

In case the post gets removed for libel let me put it more generically: people commit murder for their own advantage,they maintain their innocence at all costs, then rely on public pressure and immature prison guards getting the jitters to secure their release.

A prison guard / officer has no role to secure any prisoner release, people murder yes for different reasons
money
jealousy
over women
self defence
under the influence of drink or drugs or both
in a war
acts of terrorism.
innocence or guilt will be decided by law , in some countries by a lynch mob.

[Jane]

The murders were planned,the telephone call from Nevill is ludicrous,Jeremy had no alibi,there's nothing to link Sheila forensically with the murders,Jeremy's treatment of Police during questioning as a suspect was a disgrace..

I could go on..

The murders were spontaneous. The telephone call from Nevill occurred. Jeremy shouldn't have needed an alibi. There was nothing to link Jeremy forensically with the murders. Jeremy's treatment BY the police during questioning as a suspect was a disgrace.

I could go on..

[susan]

Morning steve

please tell me what forensic evidence was found linking Jeremy to the murders I must have missed it!!! Jeremy was convicted on evidence from a jilted girlfriend who had a track record of dishonesty and a dodgy silencer.  Evidence not made available to the Defence Team who appear to have been asleep You think the phone call from Ralph did not happen I think it did but the logs seem to have disappeared along with other evidence just my opinion of course I have nothing really to support my theory neither have you.

[Jane]

Morning steve

please tell me what forensic evidence was found linking Jeremy to the murders I must have missed it!!! Jeremy was convicted on evidence from a jilted girlfriend who had a track record of dishonesty and a dodgy silencer.  Evidence not made available to the Defence Team who appear to have been asleep You think the phone call from Ralph did not happen I think it did but the logs seem to have disappeared along with other evidence just my opinion of course I have nothing really to support my theory neither have you.

But what we DO have is an adopted family who hung him out to dry because they, like Julie saw £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

[susan]

Hello april  poor Jeremy Bamber was certainly hung out to dry and I am sure over the past years he will have realised this and with hindsight had he been more savvy he could have prevented others getting control by staying in control himself had he retained the keys to the farm and kept Julie on his arm he would never have been charged with the murders and sent to prison for life

[grahameb]

The murders were planned,the telephone call from Nevill is ludicrous,Jeremy had no alibi,there's nothing to link Sheila forensically with the murders,Jeremy's treatment of Police during questioning as a suspect was a disgrace..

I could go on..

Yeah, but lets face it. It's all the opinions of your novelist writers. Can't you say something original for a change?

[lookout]

The murders were planned,the telephone call from Nevill is ludicrous,Jeremy had no alibi,there's nothing to link Sheila forensically with the murders,Jeremy's treatment of Police during questioning as a suspect was a disgrace..

I could go on..

Steve,,,it might NOT have been Neville calling.! Someone perhaps with the idea of luring Jeremy to WHF in order to bump him off as well...Then it would have been sorted simply,,wouldn't it.?
Because that little plan failed and the police were already gathering,,it was time for plan B.
Blame Jeremy.!
Yes,,Jeremys' treatment by the police was disgraceful,,and equally,Jeremys' attitude towards them would have been the way I'd have been too,,knowing that my conscience was clear,,and that it was they who were trying to put words into his mouth,and because he didn't crack under the strain,,the police didn't like that,,they'd rather you yielded.!