Seeking the Truth for Jeremy Bamber

[lookout]

December 12th 2002= Three appeal judges say they have no doubt that Bamber is guilty,adding:" The more we examined the detail of the case,the more " likely "we " thought " it to be that the jury were right."

Likely.?--------Thought.? What sort of a conclusion is this to send a man to prison for the rest of his life.?

Pity the jury were so misinformed,misled, media-driven and hoodwinked.

[susan]

lookout I think the least anyone can expect is a fair Trial Jeremy did not get one IMO wish he could get a Retrial

[lookout]

lookout I think the least anyone can expect is a fair Trial Jeremy did not get one IMO wish he could get a Retrial

I totally agree,Susan,,Jeremy didn't get anywhere near a fair trial,, in the true sense of the word,,it was an utter disgrace from start to finish. Even Douglas Hurd said so at the time,,not in as many words. Just noticed what rhymes with Hurd,,and it goes for the rest of the crew in Parliament.

[susan]

Ha Ha lookout I love it

[grahameb]

Ha Ha lookout I love it

We have a similar trial going on at the moment regarding that Coronation Street actor. How can the jury bring in a verdict of guilty. In fact I can't even see that there was enough evidence for it even to reach the trial stage. Same with regards to Jeremy Bamber. All the evidence was very flimsy to start with and much of it rested upon hearsay. There were three main factors to the trial. Which were the silencer evidence. Julie Mugford's evidence and Jeremy's phone call. These three together were considered to be overwhelming circumstantial evidence by the police and by 10 members of the jury. Even David Boutflour's words had a ring of doubt in them. He said concerning Jeremy, "We think he did it"

[maggie]

We have a similar trial going on at the moment regarding that Coronation Street actor. How can the jury bring in a verdict of guilty. In fact I can't even see that there was enough evidence for it even to reach the trial stage. Same with regards to Jeremy Bamber. All the evidence was very flimsy to start with and much of it rested upon hearsay. There were three main factors to the trial. Which were the silencer evidence. Julie Mugford's evidence and Jeremy's phone call. These three together were considered to be overwhelming circumstantial evidence by the police and by 10 members of the jury. Even David Boutflour's words had a ring of doubt in them. He said concerning Jeremy, "We think he did it"

Hi Graham, 'kevin' was found not guilty, at least sometimes they get it right. 

[grahameb]

Hi Graham, 'kevin' was found not guilty, at least sometimes they get it right. 

I hadn't heard the news Maggie. But as I said, on the evidence laid before them that was the only verdict they could bring forth.

[mertol22]

Even so a jury makes a verdict based on only what they have , in the WHF shootings the jury then did not have all the facts.

[Jane]

We have a similar trial going on at the moment regarding that Coronation Street actor. How can the jury bring in a verdict of guilty. In fact I can't even see that there was enough evidence for it even to reach the trial stage. Same with regards to Jeremy Bamber. All the evidence was very flimsy to start with and much of it rested upon hearsay. There were three main factors to the trial. Which were the silencer evidence. Julie Mugford's evidence and Jeremy's phone call. These three together were considered to be overwhelming circumstantial evidence by the police and by 10 members of the jury. Even David Boutflour's words had a ring of doubt in them. He said concerning Jeremy, "We think he did it"

Grahame, somehow "we think........" doesn't quite have the same ring of conviction about it as "we know........."

[Caroline R]

Hi Naughty,

I still believe that if it was Sheila Nevill would have tackled her at the bedroom door (or there a bouts) when he had only received two shots to his jaw in the bedroom - he would have had plenty of fight in him at this point, but no he instead rushes downstairs knowing he cannot tackle the man shooting at his wife. Nevill opted for escape, but unfortunately failed.

In my mind Nevill must have run past his killer (either in the bedroom or possibly on the landing), before the killer turned the gun on him running down the stairs.

You still haven't answered what June and Sheila are doing while Neville is being shot in the Jaw nor why having already been shot and knowing the gunman means business, he then walks towards him in order to leave the room. You don't normally walk towards someone with a gun having already been shot.

[maggie]

I hadn't heard the news Maggie. But as I said, on the evidence laid before them that was the only verdict they could bring forth.

I agree. 

[Caroline R]

I agree. 

And me!! I just hope he is able to get over what  must have been a very stressful time and there will always be those who claim no smoke making it even more difficult to return to some form of normality.

[Nickos]

Hi Nickos, think this is where your theory comes unstuck.  In order for it to work Nevill has to pass the guy with the gun while injured with two shots to his jaw.  I find that hard to grasp.  If you were hit in the jaw by two shots you very possibly wouldn't feel any pain because of the bodies protection but you would definitely stagger, maybe almost or completely faint or collapse.   It would be a massive shock to a persons system and the body would react imo.

Hi Maggie, most theories on the Forum do come unstuck, but I give it a go 

JB could have been doing any number of things that allowed Nevill to get to the stairs. Nevill could have even wrestled with JB in the bedroom or the landing - we just don't know.

After all, Nevill still had the strength to escape downstairs and resist his attacker in the kitchen.

[lookout]

Hi Maggie, most theories on the Forum do come unstuck, but I give it a go 

JB could have been doing any number of things that allowed Nevill to get to the stairs. Nevill could have even wrestled with JB in the bedroom or the landing - we just don't know.

After all, Nevill still had the strength to escape downstairs and resist his attacker in the kitchen.

Hi Nickos,,don't you think that Jeremy would have been battered and bruised as a result of a skirmish with his father.? I don't think Jeremy would have come out of that farmhouse unscathed with everyone having a go at him. Jeremy back then at 24 didn't look to me as though he could have dodged any blows coming forthwith.

[maggie]

Hi Maggie, most theories on the Forum do come unstuck, but I give it a go 

JB could have been doing any number of things that allowed Nevill to get to the stairs. Nevill could have even wrestled with JB in the bedroom or the landing - we just don't know.

After all, Nevill still had the strength to escape downstairs and resist his attacker in the kitchen.

Hi Nickos, I know these theories are only speculation.  The problem is that any set of circumstances could have occurred and we don't have much if any idea what happened when or how or by whom.   
I would doubt Nevill set up much resistance in the kitchen, Nickos and am sure a couple of bullets to the jaw would have been a huge shock to the system never mind what he sustained after that.