The Blood in the Silencer

[Patti]

Where did you read that Patti?

From the Webster transcriptions of examination in the 2002 appeal.  I'll post it, it might be worth putting in the archives...

[Patti]

Here it is.....I have to open this with adobe...or what ever its called.

[Alias]

It's almost beyond comprehension that the silencer evidence was allowed as an exhibit in the first place.  The fact it has stood the test of time beggars belief.

I think there's something about having family members fighting a MoJ or police wrongdoing eg:

Guilford 4, Birmingham 6, Magiire 7 = Many family members.

Barry George = Sister

Stefan Kiszko = Mother

Stephen Lawrence = Mother

Hillsborough = Many family members

IMO JB's attempts to get the judiciary to look seriously at his case have been severely hampered by not having any family support.  No one could have done more for JB than Mike over the years but IMO it doesn't have the same impact with the powers that be than a demanding family would.

I think you could be right about the lack of family and thereby support. In essence Jeremy is a nobody by that glaring lack of family. The authorities have NO interest in an exposure of the incredibly bad policework and dodgy "evidence". Who wants a scandal?
I have never understood Jeremy´s birth parents entirely turning their back on him. I find that particularly nasty - I don´t know how they can live with themselves.

[Caroline R]

From the Webster transcriptions of examination in the 2002 appeal.  I'll post it, it might be worth putting in the archives...

Cheers Patti, do you know what page it's on? I'll put the link in the archives  :D XX

[Patti]

Cheers Patti, do you know what page it's on? I'll put the link in the archives  :D XX

Its on every page lolol  Noooo I think from memory check out point 78?? or round about.  How many pages are they? Can't we have the whole document in there, or is that too much? What I mean is too many pages....

[Caroline R]

Its on every page lolol  Noooo I think from memory check out point 78?? or round about.  How many pages are they? Can't we have the whole document in there, or is that too much? What I mean is too many pages....

I would need to convert the file for that and it will take up space. The link is just as good because you can just download the file.

[Jane]

I think you could be right about the lack of family and thereby support. In essence Jeremy is a nobody by that glaring lack of family. The authorities have NO interest in an exposure of the incredibly bad policework and dodgy "evidence". Who wants a scandal?
I have never understood Jeremy´s birth parents entirely turning their back on him. I find that particularly nasty - I don´t know how they can live with themselves.

Alias, we're stripping back yet another layer here. When Jeremy was given up for adoption his biological family relinquished ALL rights to him. It was as if he had never been born to them. If they die he has no claim on their estate, if he dies, they would have no claim on his. We know that it wasn't the usual set of circumstances because his mother later married the man who claimed paternity of him and went on to have more children. I find their choice difficult to accept. I see no reason why Jeremy couldn't have been fostered until such time as they married and I think that having him adopted raises more questions than it answers. I can't help but feel there must be times when life in the Marsham household becomes strained, because what they did all those years ago and what subsequently happened must be rather like an elephant in the room, but that one is theirs to deal with. The greatest, most heartbreaking tragedy for me, is that should Jeremy be taken seriously ill or even, God forbid, die, he has absolutely NO family to support him.

[killingeve]

I think you could be right about the lack of family and thereby support. In essence Jeremy is a nobody by that glaring lack of family. The authorities have NO interest in an exposure of the incredibly bad policework and dodgy "evidence". Who wants a scandal?
I have never understood Jeremy´s birth parents entirely turning their back on him. I find that particularly nasty - I don´t know how they can live with themselves.

Perhaps one day they will struggle to live with themselves.  I do hope so. 

[susan]

Alias I agree about Jeremy's birth parents they turned their backs on him twice all for selfish reasons I suspect how can a Mother do that to a son she has given birth to she should love him unconditionally if I were her I would be broken hearted I had let my son down twice especially now when he needs support.  They had the pleasure of creating him so they should have accepted the responsibility of the outcome of their pleasure.

[lookout]

I think you could be right about the lack of family and thereby support. In essence Jeremy is a nobody by that glaring lack of family. The authorities have NO interest in an exposure of the incredibly bad policework and dodgy "evidence". Who wants a scandal?
I have never understood Jeremy´s birth parents entirely turning their back on him. I find that particularly nasty - I don´t know how they can live with themselves.

Not forgetting Eddie Gilfoyles' sister,Susan,,,whose voice went a long way in assisting his release in 2010. She can be seen on a few videos' on Youtube,airing her views on the way Eddies' case was conducted from start to finish.

[susan]

Hi N/N  I don't think Jeremy's birth parents will ever feel guilt at their treatment of him they will be too selfish and wrapped up in themselves to think about poor Jeremy.  Shame on them.

[Alias]

I assume Jeremy´s parents know that his adoptive mother had mental issues - and had them before thier infant son was given into her care.
As I say, I assume - at least they must have learned about that eventually, which makes it even more heartless not to reach out to Jeremy, regardless whether they think he is guilty.

[Jane]

I assume Jeremy´s parents know that his adoptive mother had mental issues - and had them before thier infant son was given into her care.
As I say, I assume - at least they must have learned about that eventually, which makes it even more heartless not to reach out to Jeremy, regardless whether they think he is guilty.

Alias, his biological parents would have been told NOTHING of the adoptive parents. That was part of the conditions of adoption, but I CANNOT imagine how his bio mum, on learning after the tragedy, of June's mental issues, didn't claw her way to hold him in her arms, as you say, regardless of whether or not she believed him guilty.

[Reader]

. . . his mother later married the man who claimed paternity of him and went on to have more children.

So Jeremy has full siblings, if they're still alive.

[Jane]

So Jeremy has full siblings, if they're still alive.

Yes, Reader, two or three, all of course, younger than he and last I heard, leading very successful lives. Why would it occur to you to wonder if they were still living?