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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #600 on: December 01, 2013, 04:17:PM »
I believe his confession, as he doesn't seem to have anything to gain after all this time, and so much to lose, friends family supporters. I don't see what duress could have been applied, he was due to have his category changed I believe in preperation for a move to a lower category prison. That will probably still happen, ha will have been asked many many times to attend courses to "address his offending behaviour". He would have refused whilst maintains his innocence but will now probably attend. I know in our case both boys refused point blank to sign up for these courses and non-attendance played no part in re-categorising either of them, in fact K was indeed released without attend any of these courses.

I can't see any other reason for his confession other than it being true. I am willing to change my mind if other facts come to light.

I think you will find he was already in open prison conditions, and prior to his confession was due out on temporary release within weeks/months.

It is believed he has already been moved back to closed prison conditions because of the risk factor.

I doubt very much he will be released for several more years yet, especially now the prison are aware of the actual motivation for the crime.




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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #601 on: December 01, 2013, 04:20:PM »
i wouldn't of though it would make that much difference seeing as the prison athuritys assume you are guilty whatever you say.

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #602 on: December 01, 2013, 04:51:PM »
a bloody fingerprint wouldent have been there for years.

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« Reply #603 on: December 01, 2013, 04:55:PM »
i wouldn't of though it would make that much difference seeing as the prison athuritys assume you are guilty whatever you say.

I think it's important to remind you Nugnug that those closest to SH at the time the police suspected him, were telling lies, whether it was to cover for SH or to cover for themselves? These same people appear to have continued to tell lies as the years rolled on and made public their thoughts earlier this year, it seemed apparent that their anger was deep rooted? One has to surely ask the question; Why? Where did their venom come from? What were they hiding?

SH had managed to evade capture for 7 months. He was obviously very devious and calculating and was clearly manipulating minds even back then. 
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« Reply #604 on: December 01, 2013, 04:57:PM »
a bloody fingerprint wouldent have been there for years.

There was never any 'bloody fingerprint' Nugnug. There was a tiny smudge of blood on one of the fibre tapings but it was found impossible to extract anything from it.

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #605 on: December 01, 2013, 06:41:PM »
 http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/capel_st_mary_simon_hall_s_mother_s_shock_at_his_murder_confession_1_2323767

SH's mother claims she is shocked by the confession and states she believes he is innocent.

Does she still believe this?

I don't believe he ever had a breakdown nor was he low and he certainly hadn't given up from what we've heard, why would she suggest all this?

She also says the following; “But it’s the system. If he had pleaded guilty in the beginning, he would be home now.

If SH had pleaded guilty in the beginning he would not have been given a reduced sentence for telling the truth in the first instance. In fact if SH had told the truth his sentence would probably have been doubled.

Your mother appears to also be good at manipulation? Is this a family trait do you think?

She also appears to enjoy attention, is that true? In all honesty her interview appears to have been made in very bad taste, especially if you are now suggesting the things you have.

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #606 on: December 01, 2013, 07:50:PM »
would you happen to have a copy of this confession truth seeker.

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #607 on: December 07, 2013, 07:08:PM »
would you happen to have a copy of this confession truth seeker.

Unfortunately, yes I do.


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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #608 on: December 07, 2013, 07:19:PM »
Some of you may have seen the following blog;

http://www.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/2013/08/mojs-simon-halls-confession/

"Which is more probable, that after Simon’s last appeal was rejected, knowing that it was the best chance he was ever going to have, which was followed my months and months of psychological abuse and mind games by the person who drove every last one of the thousands of supporters he had away with vile and malicious on and offline feuds such that he finally couldn’t take any more, he cracked, or that Roy Lambert was right all along despite all of the evidence to the contrary and everyone else was wrong?"

I believe the above blog was written with malicious intent. The author of said blog has no evidence whatsoever to support his claims.

Some of you may recall SH took an overdose at the end of February 2013 and ended up in hospital. It was believed he had suffered an allergic reaction to a drug called Zyban and subsequently wasn't in his right mind, therefore didn't know what he was doing? It was further believed he was suffering from C/PTSD from his wrongful incarceration.

When SH confesses to the murder, he admits that his overdose had indeed been intentional and he had tried to kill himself thus admitting that he had once again been lying and manipulating the entire situation.


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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #609 on: December 07, 2013, 09:08:PM »
Some of you may have seen the following blog;

http://www.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/2013/08/mojs-simon-halls-confession/

"Which is more probable, that after Simon’s last appeal was rejected, knowing that it was the best chance he was ever going to have, which was followed my months and months of psychological abuse and mind games by the person who drove every last one of the thousands of supporters he had away with vile and malicious on and offline feuds such that he finally couldn’t take any more, he cracked, or that Roy Lambert was right all along despite all of the evidence to the contrary and everyone else was wrong?"

I believe the above blog was written with malicious intent. The author of said blog has no evidence whatsoever to support his claims.

Some of you may recall SH took an overdose at the end of February 2013 and ended up in hospital. It was believed he had suffered an allergic reaction to a drug called Zyban and subsequently wasn't in his right mind, therefore didn't know what he was doing? It was further believed he was suffering from C/PTSD from his wrongful incarceration.

When SH confesses to the murder, he admits that his overdose had indeed been intentional and he had tried to kill himself thus admitting that he had once again been lying and manipulating the entire situation.

What is puzzling though, according to the prison, is it was SH who managed to raise the alarm following his overdose? 

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #610 on: December 07, 2013, 09:21:PM »
http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/capel_st_mary_simon_hall_s_mother_s_shock_at_his_murder_confession_1_2323767

But Lynne Hall still maintains her son is innocent of the murder of pensioner Joan Albert in December 2001.

Mrs Hall said: “I’m absolutely shocked because I know he is innocent and I still believe he is.

“But it’s the system. If he had pleaded guilty in the beginning, he would be home now.

“I know he has been really low and in hospital recently. He’s given up.”

Hall’s parents Lynne and Phil Hall and his brother Shaun supported him through numerous appeals which were unsuccessful.

Mrs Hall added: “I believe he feels he can’t take any more after all the fight he has put up and how brave he has been.

“If that’s his decision, that’s his decision but I will never believe that.”





I find it difficult to understand why the above statements were made in relation to SH, especially the statement made in bold.

Anyone who had contact with SH over the years, who helped campaign on his behalf or worked on his case in any capacity will now know he was clearly a master of manipulation and allowed others to do all the work for him.

I would still like to find out if Mrs Lynne Hall still stands by her above comments?

Whilst I appreciate it is easier to remain in denial rather than accept the bitter truth that her son is capable of such a vile crime, statements like this only add to the confusion imo and allow people like this to continue to manipulate others.
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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #611 on: December 08, 2013, 11:48:AM »
http://www.insidetime.org/articleview.asp?a=1567&c=honesty_no_longer_the_best_policy

This article should never have been allowed to go to press imo and written by a lawyer no less?

SH did not confess to a 'cell mate' and was not under any pressure from anyone. His pathological lying caught up with him, it's as simple as that. As stated elsewhere, prior to his confession, SH was due out on licence within weeks. He had managed to 'dupe' the prison system also.







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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #612 on: December 08, 2013, 03:38:PM »
It might be worth reminding people about a previous campaigner for SH?

http://shirleymckie.wonko.myfastforum.org/The_Thanks_For_Campaigning__about545.html


She says: "I had no contact with Simon since leaving his campaign and then on the news of his appeal, I wrote to him to congratulate him on this and his wedding. "

"It was Steffi's determination to help and the never giving up, no matter what knock backs happened that made this campaign the success it has been.  People should never forget that and should be very grateful to Steffi.

She deserves every credit and every accolade that comes her way. She worked her wee socks off and I am so very proud of her and her efforts, not just with Simon's campaign but also with Inside Doubt which is the site she has run for some time highlighting other injustices and also pointing out how she campaigned and what works best.

So Steffi, if you get to read this, stand tall and know that you fought for so long for all the right reasons and I am only one of the many who admire your guts, tenacity and integrity.
"

It must have been a real blow for her to learn that SH was indeed guilty and that he and his mother had lied about their timings on that fateful night.

What I'd like to know is what it is she appears to be fighting so hard for now? It's time to move on and put past differences aside. Harassing the other victims of SH with unfounded allegations to the police isn't the way forward. It says more about your 'integrity, morals and boundaries etc' than anything else.


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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #613 on: December 08, 2013, 03:45:PM »
Readers may be interested to learn that it was not only Shaun Hall's posts on this forum, and their content, but also through the Real Mrs H spoof blog (authors names withheld), that we were able to get to the truth and that SH finally confessed.

It seems learning about things like 'family dynamics' in these cases is indeed an integral part of understanding someones psychopathy.

I wonder if the author(s) of the Real Mrs H blog would make themselves known?
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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #614 on: December 08, 2013, 04:06:PM »
I am still keen to hear from xxxx in order to establish why they sat on the Zenith burglary evidence for all those years?






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