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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #525 on: November 29, 2013, 07:17:PM »
public knowledge ive never heard of it before.

Never heard of the Zenith burglary?

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« Reply #526 on: November 29, 2013, 07:45:PM »
I think I was refering to more INFORMATION and not gossip tbf and no my stance has not changed in reference to the good people SH conned. I've never said facts should be swept under the carpet either.

You may also be interested to hear that I have since learned that the main reason the police went after SH as a suspect was because of the behaviours of the mother?

Apparently her facial expressions, her tone of voice, her actions and mannerisms all gave her away and made the police suspect she was covering for her son.

I should add, of course, that this piece of information was unlikely to have been disclosed to the defence team.

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« Reply #527 on: November 29, 2013, 07:47:PM »
They may be facts but they don't prove guilt, you would need to ask her the last two questions.

Has she told you what the actual motive was yet?

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #528 on: November 29, 2013, 07:50:PM »
Has she told you what the actual motive was yet?

Motive for what, the murder or the burglary

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« Reply #529 on: November 29, 2013, 07:54:PM »
Motive for what, the murder or the burglary

What is usually the motive for a burglary Denn15?  ::)

Do you remember what the original motive was? I'm sure the 2 ladies will be able to answer that for you.

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« Reply #530 on: November 29, 2013, 08:01:PM »
They knew he was a thief so the must have known he was a killer, do me a favour...

Do you know what makes someone a killer Denn15?

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #531 on: November 29, 2013, 08:14:PM »
What is usually the motive for a burglary Denn15?  ::)

Do you remember what the original motive was? I'm sure the 2 ladies will be able to answer that for you.

I don't understand where you are going, what has SB/PG/SH living arrangements or sexual habits got to do with the vicious murder of an old lady in her own home, yes I'm sure that it was a burglary gone wrong.
Have I or anyone I know received stolen property, probably yes. What does that prove. Maybe I'm thick but please spell it out for me "original motive"
I'm 100% certain that everyone who fought for SH as a miscarriage of Justice had no doubt he was innocent, I'm also 100% sure that they would not have fought if they thought he had done this terrible thing.

As for what SH was wearing that night I can only go by what I've been told, I was not there so I cannot comment. This point is all moot as SH has now confessed, some people are in denial, I am not, I can see no reason for him confessing after all this time unless he did it. As for his parents I feel deeply sorry for them, as I do for the parents of other people who believe there child is innocent only to have their world turned upside down. What SB and Shaun H are doing is neither here or there in regards to this case.

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #532 on: November 29, 2013, 08:20:PM »
Do you know what makes someone a killer Denn15?

To kill another human being is something everyone is capable of, the right buttons are all that needs to be pressed, be it threat against that person or their family and children. If you asked me could I kill and I'd probably say no, but threaten my wife or son and I'm not so sure. So in answer to your question, yes I know what makes someone a killer, circumstances ....

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« Reply #533 on: November 29, 2013, 08:50:PM »
To kill another human being is something everyone is capable of, the right buttons are all that needs to be pressed, be it threat against that person or their family and children. If you asked me could I kill and I'd probably say no, but threaten my wife or son and I'm not so sure. So in answer to your question, yes I know what makes someone a killer, circumstances ....

What 'buttons need to be pressed' in order to kill a defenceless innocent 79 year old lady in her own home?

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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #534 on: November 29, 2013, 09:05:PM »
What 'buttons need to be pressed' in order to kill a defenceless innocent 79 year old lady in her own home?

I have no clue why anyone would do this tbh. You're first question was a general query to which I gave an honest answer but I cannot imagine any circumstances that would make someone do this, maybe you need to ask SH as his circumstances obviously did. As for what the police believed, I wouldn't believe a word they said, these are the same police who spent a fortune on DNA tests on a pubic hair found in the toilet only to find it was from one of their own bobbies having a piss and contaminating a crime scene....

You're making a lot of claims against SH's family but what proof do you have of any of this. From what I understand his parents are both still in denial even after his confession. 

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« Reply #535 on: November 29, 2013, 09:13:PM »
As for his parents I feel deeply sorry for them, as I do for the parents of other people who believe there child is innocent only to have their world turned upside down.

You appear to be missing the point again.

SH was found guilty. The facts being that the jury believed the mother was lying in order to cover for her son and because of the fibre evidence. This is it in a nutshell.

So, go back to when SH is convicted. The mother was showed at trial to have lied.

Are you suggesting she has been in denial for all these years? Has it not crossed your mind that she would have been prepared to do anything in order to protect the family name? Even convincing others to campaign on her behalf?

Why did she tell further lies about the Zenith burglary. Why was she prepared to tell further lies about her knowledge of this fact?

You see, I believe the Hall family told many lies to one another and others and over many years in order to protect their reputations.
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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #536 on: November 29, 2013, 09:24:PM »
I have no clue why anyone would do this tbh. You're first question was a general query to which I gave an honest answer but I cannot imagine any circumstances that would make someone do this, maybe you need to ask SH as his circumstances obviously did. As for what the police believed, I wouldn't believe a word they said, these are the same police who spent a fortune on DNA tests on a pubic hair found in the toilet only to find it was from one of their own bobbies having a piss and contaminating a crime scene....

You're making a lot of claims against SH's family but what proof do you have of any of this. From what I understand his parents are both still in denial even after his confession.

You don't honestly believe they are in denial do you?

Incidentally, do you have any knowledge of personality disorders?

Answer me this;

Why did Lynne Hall lie about the clothes SH was wearing that night? Why did she lie about the time he arrived home? Why did she lie about them sitting down for a cup of tea? Why did she go into so much detail regarding the clothes he was wearing that night and even describe in detail how she watched him untie his boots?

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/capel_st_mary_simon_hall_s_mother_s_shock_at_his_murder_confession_1_2323767

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Brave? SH was not brave, as his mother she knew this. But she was prepared to sink this low on this day in order to protect her reputation. She was prepared to keep the lies going, at the expense of the poor victim and her family.





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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #537 on: November 29, 2013, 09:35:PM »


Why did Lynne Hall lie about the clothes SH was wearing that night? Why did she lie about the time he arrived home? Why did she lie about them sitting down for a cup of tea? Why did she go into so much detail regarding the clothes he was wearing that night and even describe in detail how she watched him untie his boots?

I obviously can't answer any of these question.


I don't know if she lied or not.

if she did lie I could only guess as to why

why do you think she has lied?

Are you close to the case, some of the stuff you've posted I do know to be true some of it I don't.

You do seem to have a problem with SH family and past girlfriends but
make no mention of his wife, why's that?






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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #538 on: November 29, 2013, 09:42:PM »
I obviously can't answer any of these question.


I don't know if she lied or not.

if she did lie I could only guess as to why

why do you think she has lied?

Are you close to the case, some of the stuff you've posted I do know to be true some of it I don't.

You do seem to have a problem with SH family and past girlfriends but
make no mention of his wife, why's that?

I've explained why I think she's lied.

You know who I am, no need to play 'guess the poster.'

What I have a problem with is bare faced liars. People who possess no scruples, morals etc.

You may think it's okay for people to knowingly advocate for the guilty but I do not.
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Re: Re: Simon Hall Confesses To Murder Of Joan Albert
« Reply #539 on: November 29, 2013, 09:55:PM »
I've explained why I think she's lied.

You know who I am, no need to play 'guess the poster.'

What I have a problem with is bare faced liars. People who possess no scruples, morals etc.

You may think it's okay for people to knowingly advocate for the guilty but I do not.

Ok I'll concede your first point

I really don't know who you are

No I don't think it's ok , I think it's wrong in so many ways