ECHR ..... now - Killers' life terms 'breached their human rights'

[Steve_uk]

It's interesting that everything Jeremy did, said, looked is a big deal in your eyes steve but nothing the extended family do is a big deal, everything is understandable and explainable.  You seem to have a very biased view of the case imo.

The whole thing was a game to Jeremy which was why he was able to switch off and act in such a nonchalant manner. The game cast its shadow far past the murders with the dragging of the Eaton's up to Pocklington for the Land Tribunal hearing which Jeremy pulled out of at the last minute yet who no doubt got a laugh at the thought of causing them the hassle of travelling all that way for nothing.

[Jane]

It's interesting that everything Jeremy did, said, looked is a big deal in your eyes steve but nothing the extended family do is a big deal, everything is understandable and explainable.  You seem to have a very biased view of the case imo.

Maggie, I would have thought that if Jeremy was going to kill anyone, RWB would have been his first choice. He can't have been unaware of what dear Uncle Bobbie thought about him.

[Jane]

It's interesting that everything Jeremy did, said, looked is a big deal in your eyes steve but nothing the extended family do is a big deal, everything is understandable and explainable.  You seem to have a very biased view of the case imo.

The whole thing was a game to Jeremy which was why he was able to switch off and act in such a nonchalant manner. The game cast its shadow far past the murders with the dragging of the Eaton's up to Pocklington for the Land Tribunal hearing which Jeremy pulled out of at the last minute yet who no doubt got a laugh at the thought of causing them the hassle of travelling all that way for nothing.

Steve, why have you not addressed Maggie's point? You point to every word, gesture and action taken by Jeremy as proof of his guilt but appear to regard as accepable behaviour anything said and done by the rellies. "How I loathe that boy" sounds like anything BUT acceptable to me as does this odious man's daughter walking around with pen an paper so soon after the tragedy.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, why have you not addressed Maggie's point? You point to every word, gesture and action taken by Jeremy as proof of his guilt but appear to regard as accepable behaviour anything said and done by the rellies. "How I loathe that boy" sounds like anything BUT acceptable to me as does this odious man's daughter walking around with pen an paper so soon after the tragedy.

But who committed the murders for goodness sake..

[maggie]

Thank you April for acknowledging my point which steve has just ignored. 

[Jane]

But who committed the murders for goodness sake..

The rellies were quite determined that Jeremy did, because if Sheila did it Jeremy would have come into the inheritance, wheras if it could be shown that Jeremy did it THEY would inherit. IMO, for them it was less about clearing Sheila's name and more about clawing back something they believed was rightfully theirs.

[Jane]

Thank you April for acknowledging my point which steve has just ignored. 

MAGGIE thank God you're here. I was feeling very alone.

[maggie]

But who committed the murders for goodness sake..

That is the question many of us still ask, steve. You on the other hand airily dismiss anything which suggests all is not right with the evidence. How do you explain Ann Eatons explanation of the blood like jelly or a blob of jam after it had lain in a cupboard for three days and then transported in a car wrapped in a plastic bag? Do you accept this is in any way plausible.
The bloodstains on the bible were all tested and fingerprinted but no results were released, isn't that strange? Or don't you think any of this is a big deal?

[maggie]

MAGGIE thank God you're here. I was feeling very alone.

Hi April I am only half here and half asleep.

[tyler]

Because the best testament to the Bamber murders that evil would not triumph was for children's laughter to echo through the confines of the building once again and not be snuffed out with the deaths of the twins.

But allegedly,the Eaton children suffered terrible nightmares once relocated to whf. I personally would not put my children through that for ANY amount of money!                                                         

[Jane]

But allegedly,the Eaton children suffered terrible nightmares once relocated to whf. I personally would not put my children through that for ANY amount of money!                                                         

I imagine that Ann may have had the same attitude to her childen as her father had. Did not one of his statements say that he expected obedience even from his adult children. Their feelings seem not to have come into the equation.

[maggie]

But allegedly,the Eaton children suffered terrible nightmares once relocated to whf. I personally would not put my children through that for ANY amount of money!                                                         

Nor me tyler, sounds dreadful to put your children through that. Mind you my kids would have made such a fuss no one would ever have got in the house. Think maybe those children were not allowed to have an opinion, maybe Ann ruled same way her father did?

[Steve_uk]

That is the question many of us still ask, steve. You on the other hand airily dismiss anything which suggests all is not right with the evidence. How do you explain Ann Eatons explanation of the blood like jelly or a blob of jam after it had lain in a cupboard for three days and then transported in a car wrapped in a plastic bag? Do you accept this is in any way plausible.
The bloodstains on the bible were all tested and fingerprinted but no results were released, isn't that strange? Or don't you think any of this is a big deal?

All of the blood evidence along with the DNA has been discussed ad nauseum, is open to different interpretations and nothing was conclusive. As for the bible it's my opinion it was tossed onto the body by Jeremy after his sister's death to reinforce the "Sheila is a loony schizophrenic" argument which Jeremy reiterated to Police at every opportunity at the outset of this whole affair.

[maggie]

I imagine that Ann may have had the same attitude to her childen as her father had. Did not one of his statements say that he expected obedience even from his adult children. Their feelings seem not to have come into the equation.

Snap april........great minds and all that 

[Caroline R]

All of the blood evidence along with the DNA has been discussed ad nauseum, is open to different interpretations and nothing was conclusive. As for the bible it's my opinion it was tossed onto the body by Jeremy after his sister's death to reinforce the "Sheila is a loony schizophrenic" argument which Jeremy reiterated to Police at every opportunity at the outset of this whole affair.

Who's palm print is it?