Daniel and Nicholas Caffell: 22 June 1979-7 August 1985

[Patti]

Hi April, what is a 'Coggeshall Job'?

A J. Bell?   

[lookout]

Did Jeremy realize Sheila had no medication left after the incident with the electrician's visit? Had Jeremy realized that his subterfuge with the telephones might work due to the lightning strike incident? I'm quoting Jeremy's words that Sheila had ECT but who knows if Jeremy was over-egging the pudding as usual,claiming that she was a "nutter" who had recently engaged in target practice. There were many lies mixed up in Jeremy's tale even though he told Julie "the trick is to tell the truth wherever possible"..

Steve,,did it ever cross your mind that Sheila could well have omitted taking her medication on purpose.? To do so,in her mind,,would prove to Colin that she didn't need any,in preparation for the hope that they might get back together.? I think she'd have stood on her head if it had meant getting back as a family again.
The sad thing about it is that because she didn't take her medication,she was then prone to psychotic attacks,which were beyond her control. Who knows what was on her mind that day.?

[maggie]

A J. Bell?   

Oh OK.  Old J Bell raises his head once again.  I have read some suggestions he may have been involved in disappearances also Diane Jones.  What do you think?  I know he had a violent temper and was a nasty bully to say the least??

[Jane]

Hi April, what is a 'Coggeshall Job'?

Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin

Once upon a time Coggeshall had a wonderful marching band who were so good that they won prizes. One day whilst they were performing outside the Chapel Hotel, the landlord came out and told the leader how wonderful the band sounded from inside the pub and what a shame they couldn't hear it. The leader decided that he must hear how good they sounded so he went into the hotel and was AMAZED by the melodious sound. So excited was he by what he's heard that he called the whole band into the hotel so they could all hear how good they were ..................then there was the time that they put a fence around the village to stop the measles getting in from neighbouring Kelvedon, which would have been about the same time that they tried to fish the reflection of the moon from the river to give them more light because they wanted to get the cow from off the church roof where they'd put it to eat the moss.

As you can probably tell, at that time most people in Coggeshall were a sandwich short of a picnic.............and some of them may not be much better now

[nugnug]

youve lost me here maggie who is daine Jones.

[Patti]

Oh OK.  Old J Bell raises his head once again.  I have read some suggestions he may have been involved in disappearances also Diane Jones.  What do you think?  I know he had a violent temper and was a nasty bully to say the least??

Hi Maggie, not sure if April means J Bell, but it was the first thing that sprang to my mind.  Yes, he was a nasty bugger....

[maggie]

youve lost me here maggie who is daine Jones.

Sorry Nugs, Dianne Jones was married to Doctor Jones who disappeared n that area, was it around the same time April?  Havent got my book to hand.

[Alias]

No Caroline because if Sheila just happened to kill four members of her family and Jeremy had had no plans to kill them then everything Julie reported about Jeremy's intentions are lies and she cannot be blamed for their deaths. Additionally of course continuing the innocent Jeremy scenario the relatives must have dripped some of Sheila's blood from the knicker bucket into a silencer then scratched the mantlepiece with it.

It is so unfortunate that the relatives of the Bamber family not only found the silencer, which had been overlooked by the EP, but also discovered the scratch-marks - those equally overlooked by EP AND had fingered some of Sheila´s blood from the knickers and the bucket.
I am not saying they did ANYTHING, but this scenario is wide open to speculation, especially since they gained quite a bit financially.
I will never understand why the silencer was regarded as solid evidence.

[Jane]

Oh OK.  Old J Bell raises his head once again.  I have read some suggestions he may have been involved in disappearances also Diane Jones.  What do you think?  I know he had a violent temper and was a nasty bully to say the least??

Poor Jimmy. We seem determined to get him involved but I think not Maggie, sorry

[Patti]

Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin

Once upon a time Coggeshall had a wonderful marching band who were so good that they won prizes. One day whilst they were performing outside the Chapel Hotel, the landlord came out and told the leader how wonderful the band sounded from inside the pub and what a shame they couldn't hear it. The leader decided that he must hear how good they sounded so he went into the hotel and was AMAZED by the melodious sound. So excited was he by what he's heard that he called the whole band into the hotel so they could all hear how good they were ..................then there was the time that they put a fence around the village to stop the measles getting in from neighbouring Kelvedon, which would have been about the same time that they tried to fish the reflection of the moon from the river to give them more light because they wanted to get the cow from off the church roof where they'd put it to eat the moss.

As you can probably tell, at that time most people in Coggeshall were a sandwich short of a picnic.............and some of them may not be much better now

Oh blinkin heck! I get it now....

[Jane]

Hi Maggie, not sure if April means J Bell, but it was the first thing that sprang to my mind.  Yes, he was a nasty bugger....

Yes, Patti. I do mean Jimmy Bell but whilst I know to be true everything said about his vile temper, I never saw it...............thankfully :D

[Patti]

It is so unfortunate that the relatives of the Bamber family not only found the silencer, which had been overlooked by the EP, but also discovered the scratch-marks - those equally overlooked by EP AND had fingered some of Sheila´s blood from the knickers and the bucket.
I am not saying they did ANYTHING, but this scenario is wide open to speculation, especially since they gained quite a bit financially.
I will never understand why the silencer was regarded as solid evidence.

Hi Alias

You are so right and this is why it will always remain an uncertainty imo. 

[Patti]

Yes, Patti. I do mean Jimmy Bell but whilst I know to be true everything said about his vile temper, I never saw it...............thankfully :D

Did you know him April? 

[maggie]

It is so unfortunate that the relatives of the Bamber family not only found the silencer, which had been overlooked by the EP, but also discovered the scratch-marks - those equally overlooked by EP AND had fingered some of Sheila´s blood from the knickers and the bucket.
I am not saying they did ANYTHING, but this scenario is wide open to speculation, especially since they gained quite a bit financially.
I will never understand why the silencer was regarded as solid evidence.

I agree Alias.

[Jane]

Sorry Nugs, Dianne Jones was married to Doctor Jones who disappeared n that area, was it around the same time April?  Havent got my book to hand.

Maggie, there was a plethora of murderous activity all around the same time, give or take a year or two. Apart from WHF, there was Jimmy and Augusta, and Wilfred and Patsy. You may imagine that the village was agog, everyone wondering what or WHO would be next.