Daniel and Nicholas Caffell: 22 June 1979-7 August 1985

[Jane]

Did Jeremy realize Sheila had no medication left after the incident with the electrician's visit? Had Jeremy realized that his subterfuge with the telephones might work due to the lightning strike incident? I'm quoting Jeremy's words that Sheila had ECT but who knows if Jeremy was over-egging the pudding as usual,claiming that she was a "nutter" who had recently engaged in target practice. There were many lies mixed up in Jeremy's tale even though he told Julie "the trick is to tell the truth wherever possible"..

Why on earth would Jeremy concern himself with the meds of a person he saw, by his own admission, about once every six weeks? How likely is it that Jeremy was present when the electrician visited and if he wasn't, how likely is it that he was told about the incident.

[Patti]

You don't shave with your shirt on. Jeremy could well have put on his wetsuit over normal clothing and had a struggle ensued over the rifle in the kitchen with Nevill as it was raised overarm during which the ceiling light got smashed the sleeve of the wetsuit could well have become visible and on the cuff of the shirt under the wetsuit is exactly where I'd expect to find specks of blood.

And 6 weeks later forgot to wash the evidence away....Steve its no good, it was not linked, its something you will have to except...

Of course men don't shave with shirts on....but they do bleed after they have shaven.  I think the wetsuit can go to bed too.,...it was examined and again nothing linked that wetsuit to the crime....

[lookout]

You don't shave with your shirt on. Jeremy could well have put on his wetsuit over normal clothing and had a struggle ensued over the rifle in the kitchen with Nevill as it was raised overarm during which the ceiling light got smashed the sleeve of the wetsuit could well have become visible and on the cuff of the shirt under the wetsuit is exactly where I'd expect to find specks of blood.

Good job you can't see me laughing Steve.

[Caroline R]

You don't shave with your shirt on. Jeremy could well have put on his wetsuit over normal clothing and had a struggle ensued over the rifle in the kitchen with Nevill as it was raised overarm during which the ceiling light got smashed the sleeve of the wetsuit could well have become visible and on the cuff of the shirt under the wetsuit is exactly where I'd expect to find specks of blood.

No, but you can cut yourself prior to putting on your shirt, not notice the blood which then transfers to the collar!! Much more likely than the ridiculous assertion that he wore a wet suit over his clothes!! Have you ever warn a wetsuit Steve? They are tight with a capital T and quite frankly the idea of him even thinking about wearing one is just silly and one of RB's more outlandish ideas which I am sure was never taken seriously by anyone other than RB and now you.

[Jane]

No, but you can cut yourself prior to putting on your shirt, not notice the blood which then transfers to the collar!! Much more likely than the ridiculous assertion that he wore a wet suit over his clothes!! Have you ever warn a wetsuit Steve? They are tight with a capital T and quite frankly the idea of him even thinking about wearing one is just silly and one of RB's more outlandish ideas which I am sure was never taken seriously by anyone other than RB and now you.

Don't forget tight with a capital T AND riding a bike as well.

[Jane]

You don't shave with your shirt on. Jeremy could well have put on his wetsuit over normal clothing and had a struggle ensued over the rifle in the kitchen with Nevill as it was raised overarm during which the ceiling light got smashed the sleeve of the wetsuit could well have become visible and on the cuff of the shirt under the wetsuit is exactly where I'd expect to find specks of blood.

Steve, I can't say for sure, but I may be speaking for all us us in saying that this intercourse with you is a tad exhausting. I can't help but wonder if your teachers/lecturers/tutors found you a challenge and kept ahead of you or if they had to take time off with mental exhaustion :D

[lookout]

Poor Sheila,,on her last trip to WHF, had made it pretty clear to Colin that she wanted him back,,and the boys too. How she must have felt,God only knows.Wouldn't that have been a pointer in itself,,,along with the reception she got at suppertime.?

[Caroline R]

Don't forget tight with a capital T AND riding a bike as well.

And lets not forget the (so called) fight in the kitchen - he'd have been exhausted and very hot!! However, when he met the police at WHF he was dressed as though he were cold.

[Caroline R]

Actually isn't "the trick is to tell the truth wherever possible" pretty good advice? 

[Jane]

And lets not forget the (so called) fight in the kitchen - he'd have been exhausted and very hot!! However, when he met the police at WHF he was dressed as though he were cold.

And why would he have needed to raise the gun above his head (and risk ripping the wetsuit) to put it out of the reach of someone with a useless arm? I can't imagine he'd have felt like using his good arm.

[maggie]

And lets not forget the (so called) fight in the kitchen - he'd have been exhausted and very hot!! However, when he met the police at WHF he was dressed as though he were cold.

This is something which seems so wrong to me Caroline.
How did Jeremy manage to do what he was accused of doing from biking across pitch dark uneven land without lights to killing 5 people rushing backwards and forwards making telephone calls etc. and then turn up at the farm cool and calm as if nothing had happened and as you say wearing extra sweaters against the cool of the night.  No signs of sweating or shaking, no adrenaline rush apparent.  It really doesn't make any sense at all.imo

[Patti]

Don't forget tight with a capital T AND riding a bike as well.

Enough to strangle the 's Cough! HA! 

[Jane]

This is something which seems so wrong to me Caroline.
How did Jeremy manage to do what he was accused of doing from biking across pitch dark uneven land without lights to killing 5 people rushing backwards and forwards making telephone calls etc. and then turn up at the farm cool and calm as if nothing had happened and as you say wearing extra sweaters against the cool of the night.  No signs of sweating or shaking, no adrenaline rush apparent.  It really doesn't make any sense at all.imo

Maggie, it sounds like a "Coggeshall Job".

[Jane]

Enough to strangle the 's Cough! HA! 

Bass to counter tenor in one fell (painful :D) swoop :D :D :D

[maggie]

Maggie, it sounds like a "Coggeshall Job".

Hi April, what is a 'Coggeshall Job'?