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Offline mike tesko

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Missing photographs, by reference to missing negatives in Strips of ten(10)...

Typical Example of Negative strip, consisting of 10 negatives:-

Negative Strip

Neg'. - 1
Neg'. - 2
Neg'. - 3
Neg'. - 4
Neg'. - 5
Neg'. - 6
Neg'. - 7
Neg'. - 8
Neg'. - 9
Neg'. - 10
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Offline mike tesko

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Missing photographs, by reference to missing negatives in Strips of ten(10)...

Typical Example of Negative strip, consisting of 10 negatives:-

Negative Strip

Neg'. - 1
Neg'. - 2
Neg'. - 3
Neg'. - 4
Neg'. - 5
Neg'. - 6
Neg'. - 7
Neg'. - 8
Neg'. - 9
Neg'. - 10

Negative Strip with missing negatives at beginning of strip

Neg'. - 1 (missing)
Neg'. - 2 (missing)
Neg'. - 3 (missing)
Neg'. - 4 (missing)
Neg'. - 5 (missing)
Neg'. - 6 (missing)
Neg'. - 7 (missing)
Neg'. - 8 (missing)
Neg'. - 9
Neg'. - 10
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Offline mike tesko

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Essex police were too clever for thier own good, since in order to conceal the full extent ot photographs which had been taken in connection with the Bamber case investigation, contained in 'THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM', consisting of 581 photographs, they got PC Bird to produce a false and misleading, 'MASTER COPY ALBUM', consisting of only 223 photographs, which they fooled everyone into believing contained all the photographs taken in the investigation, even though a total of 358 other images were concealed from Bambers legal team, by so doing...

PC Bird then further complicated the matter, by producing a 'COURT ALBUM', which consisted of 50 pre-selected photographs taken from the 'MASTER COPY ALBUM', with a view to try and confuse everyone about the actual order that all the photographs contained in'THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM (581) had been taken, the order with which the 223 photographs contained in the 'MASTER COPY ALBUM', had been taken, and the order with which the 50 photographs contained in the court album were actually taken...

What PC Bird did, was to produce a dual schedule, showing the order which the photographs (50) had been taken in, against the order of the 223 photographs listed in sequential order, in the 'MASTER COPY ALBUM', when all along the 223 photographs which compromise of the 'MASTER COPY ALBUM' may not have been listed in sequential order to start off with. What was required was for all 581 photographs contained in the 'SENIOR INVESTIGATIN OFFICER ALBUM', to be listed in order, along with the corresponding negative reference number, so that when PC Bird create the 'MATER COPY ALBUM' (223), the negative references for all photographs contained within it, could be checked to identify the sequential order in which photographs were taken, in any album produced, or referred to, thereafter...

For some reaon, police did not want anyone to know the exact sequence that all 581 photographs were taken in, particularly those taken at the scene on 7th August 1985 - this was because of interference with the bodies of the victims by police officers engaged in a training exercise, with bodies of victims still in situ...
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I have seen it somewhere, but cannot lay my hands on it at the moment, but there was published somewhere a complete list of all the negatives regarding photographic images taken by police, and looked into by Mr Sutherst, and if I could get my hands on that information, I would be in a strong position to produce compelling evidence with a view to it being utilized in any future proceedings...

So if anyone can  help me with this, it would be very much appreciated...
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I have seen it somewhere, but cannot lay my hands on it at the moment, but there was published somewhere a complete list of all the negatives regarding photographic images taken by police, and looked into by Mr Sutherst, and if I could get my hands on that information, I would be in a strong position to produce compelling evidence with a view to it being utilized in any future proceedings...

So if anyone can  help me with this, it would be very much appreciated...

I am particularly interested in the film strip records, similar to following:-
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What in photography does '6 frames after' mean?

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At which point/s on this list does the photographer move from the master bedroom to the top of the staircase?


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At which point/s on this list does the photographer move from the master bedroom to the top of the staircase?



here:-

After 60 negatives on filmstrip taken prior to moving to stairs (Photograph 23 in album) - what happened to the missing 38 images captured prior to PC Bird taking photograph 23?
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According to the above records, a total of 7 negatives are missing whilst PC Bird took photographs in the main beroom...
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According to the above records, a total of 7 negatives are missing whilst PC Bird took photographs in the main beroom...

By the time PC Bird gets downstairs to start photographing the gun cupboard, another 8 photograph (negative) images are missing (Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle minus silencer is photographed inside gun cupboard of downstairs office)...
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here:-

After 60 negatives on filmstrip taken prior to moving to stairs (Photograph 23 in album) - what happened to the missing 38 images captured prior to PC Bird taking photograph 23?

This helps to prove that the sequence of photographs in the MASTER COPY ALBUM, (223), does not reflect the true compilation of photographs taken at the scene up to the point when photo' 23 was taken by PC Bird from the vantage point of the middle landing looking back into the bedroom (MASTER COPY ALBUM)...
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10 negatives - used in kitchen to photograph body of Ralph Bamber
10 negatives - used in kitchen, before moving upstairs to bedroom to photo' Sheila with rifle
10 negatives - used in main bedroom photographing body of Sheila
10 negatives - used in main bedroom to photo' body of June Bamber, and Sheila with rifle
10 negatives - used on upstairs landing, and childs bedroom
10 negatives - used in childs bedroom, toilet and bathroom
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Thanks Mike.

I wonder which part of this table...




corresponds to this photo? ...

 

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10 negatives - used in kitchen to photograph body of Ralph Bamber
10 negatives - used in kitchen, before moving upstairs to bedroom to photo' Sheila with rifle
10 negatives - used in main bedroom photographing body of Sheila
10 negatives - used in main bedroom to photo' body of June Bamber, and Sheila with rifle
10 negatives - used on upstairs landing, and childs bedroom
10 negatives - used in childs bedroom, toilet and bathroom

Next 10 negatives - includes use in childs bedroom, stairs and outside (photo'23 taken amongst these)...
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Thanks Mike.

I wonder which part of this table...




corresponds to this photo? ...







It's No 5,,the landing.