Is this how it's going to work then?

[Bridget]

I think we ought to wait and find out what has really happened....

I'm quite shocked Jim in no longer with us. 

Just a thought, if his account has been deleted, this might mean he can re-register...but would not be able to if he had a ban? Just a thought!

I'm not sure which is worse, banning someone or deleting their account so they lose all their PMs and post history. Either way it sucks.

[Patti]

I'm not sure which is worse, banning someone or deleting their account so they lose all their PMs and post history. Either way it sucks.

I feel really sorry about what has happened.

[vidvic]

I won't be posting for a while myself. I'll keep reading hopefully, but the forum has really descended into a bit of a farce now. Some posters are allowed to say whatever they want, however revolting or pious, whereas others are seemingly censored, usually after pushing mike on some of his more ridiculous theories. Added to that we have the forum owner expecting everyone to simply believe every word he utters, without any foundation whatsoever. This attitude is why I believe the numbers are so low now as its really not a very pleasurable experience listening to mike preach and watching some of you encourage him to tell further lies. That's all he has left now is his imagination. 10 years ago he had lots of unpublished docs, not seen outside the legal teams and he sought to find bamber a way out, in exchange for a share in the revenue from bamber's future fortune. When this and bamber's numerous legal attempts failed, he sought to invent informers and has stretched the truth to breaking point. Claiming to be withholding documents and images almost certain to help free bamber makes him a clown who even the most fervent supporter should be castigating, not telling him what a brilliant job he's doing! Because, almost certainly, Tesko has damaged both bamber's chances of release, as referred to by the CCRC, was directly responsible for the sacking of one of the countries leading MOJ lawyers (by telling lies), but is now directly contradicting bamber's own views on what might have happened and wants nothing more to do with him. Only in the wonderful world of bamber can you have a multiple convicted thief fighting for the release of a mass murderer and the mass murderer wants nothing to do with the thief! Even the solicitor before last is doing time! And he was the one who took mike most seriously! Mike recently described him as a genius!
But worst of all, particularly in recent years, mike has made the most vile lurid allegations against the relatives, both living and dead. Gross sexual details that bear no relation to the case and an addiction to posting up images of dead relatives at the drop of a hat. It's wrong, it's disrespectful and it's psychologically worrying. Even bamber has complained about it but mike takes no notice.
I've met some really lovely genuine people through this forum, so I thank mike for that and I'll try and keep in touch with you all. All the best, Vic.

[Patti]

I won't be posting for a while myself. I'll keep reading hopefully, but the forum has really descended into a bit of a farce now. Some posters are allowed to say whatever they want, however revolting or pious, whereas others are seemingly censored, usually after pushing mike on some of his more ridiculous theories. Added to that we have the forum owner expecting everyone to simply believe every word he utters, without any foundation whatsoever. This attitude is why I believe the numbers are so low now as its really not a very pleasurable experience listening to mike preach and watching some of you encourage him to tell further lies. That's all he has left now is his imagination. 10 years ago he had lots of unpublished docs, not seen outside the legal teams and he sought to find bamber a way out, in exchange for a share in the revenue from bamber's future fortune. When this and bamber's numerous legal attempts failed, he sought to invent informers and has stretched the truth to breaking point. Claiming to be withholding documents and images almost certain to help free bamber makes him a clown who even the most fervent supporter should be castigating, not telling him what a brilliant job he's doing! Because, almost certainly, Tesko has damaged both bamber's chances of release, as referred to by the CCRC, was directly responsible for the sacking of one of the countries leading MOJ lawyers (by telling lies), but is now directly contradicting bamber's own views on what might have happened and wants nothing more to do with him. Only in the wonderful world of bamber can you have a multiple convicted thief fighting for the release of a mass murderer and the mass murderer wants nothing to do with the thief! Even the solicitor before last is doing time! And he was the one who took mike most seriously! Mike recently described him as a genius!
But worst of all, particularly in recent years, mike has made the most vile lurid allegations against the relatives, both living and dead. Gross sexual details that bear no relation to the case and an addiction to posting up images of dead relatives at the drop of a hat. It's wrong, it's disrespectful and it's psychologically worrying. Even bamber has complained about it but mike takes no notice.
I've met some really lovely genuine people through this forum, so I thank mike for that and I'll try and keep in touch with you all. All the best, Vic.

Vic 

Puts me in a bit of a dilemma and I may get banned myself, but I agree with you.  I know you are a good sort deep down. I have nothing more to add.  Take care X

[Jane]

I won't be posting for a while myself. I'll keep reading hopefully,..........................
I've met some really lovely genuine people through this forum, so I thank mike for that and I'll try and keep in touch with you all. All the best, Vic.

Vic, thankyou for sharing your views and those kind words.

[Bridget]

I won't be posting for a while myself. I'll keep reading hopefully, but the forum has really descended into a bit of a farce now. Some posters are allowed to say whatever they want, however revolting or pious, whereas others are seemingly censored, usually after pushing mike on some of his more ridiculous theories. Added to that we have the forum owner expecting everyone to simply believe every word he utters, without any foundation whatsoever. This attitude is why I believe the numbers are so low now as its really not a very pleasurable experience listening to mike preach and watching some of you encourage him to tell further lies. That's all he has left now is his imagination. 10 years ago he had lots of unpublished docs, not seen outside the legal teams and he sought to find bamber a way out, in exchange for a share in the revenue from bamber's future fortune. When this and bamber's numerous legal attempts failed, he sought to invent informers and has stretched the truth to breaking point. Claiming to be withholding documents and images almost certain to help free bamber makes him a clown who even the most fervent supporter should be castigating, not telling him what a brilliant job he's doing! Because, almost certainly, Tesko has damaged both bamber's chances of release, as referred to by the CCRC, was directly responsible for the sacking of one of the countries leading MOJ lawyers (by telling lies), but is now directly contradicting bamber's own views on what might have happened and wants nothing more to do with him. Only in the wonderful world of bamber can you have a multiple convicted thief fighting for the release of a mass murderer and the mass murderer wants nothing to do with the thief! Even the solicitor before last is doing time! And he was the one who took mike most seriously! Mike recently described him as a genius!
But worst of all, particularly in recent years, mike has made the most vile lurid allegations against the relatives, both living and dead. Gross sexual details that bear no relation to the case and an addiction to posting up images of dead relatives at the drop of a hat. It's wrong, it's disrespectful and it's psychologically worrying. Even bamber has complained about it but mike takes no notice.
I've met some really lovely genuine people through this forum, so I thank mike for that and I'll try and keep in touch with you all. All the best, Vic.

Sadly I completely agree. Don't be a stranger x

[mertol22]

Ive not posted much as ive had priorities elsewhere , all i can say is members have in the past been banned and after a while re joined been under a ban for a while, mike does know he actually needs members input no matter what their take on the case i would say jim will return at some point , as to vics stance about what has been said about the relatives his view will not be shared by everyone there are issues as always to discuss ive just bought Roger Wilkes book so i will begin reading sometime, i sense with mike fustration or disdain of a unfair justice system, if so i do too, one last thought you may be suprised of how simple it is to frame someone for a crime from stealing a bicycle to murder.

[Alias]

Just get so fed up with this shit. I will take a break. Be well.

[lookout]

Oh dear,,and I have been out all day,,so thankfully whatever has gone on,,it wasn't me.

[packagebuilder]

  yeah I've caught the blowup between Jimmy and mike.

I've too had a blow up between another support on facebook, She kept snipering me in the back which pissed me off.

[lookout]

yeah I've caught the blowup between Jimmy and mike.

I've too had a blow up between another support on facebook, She kept snipering me in the back which pissed me off.

I know,PB,,I've been constantly attacked on the Yahoo news debate too,,and you're right,,it isn't nice at all.I don't know why folk are intent on hurting others,,it seems the vogue nowadays to release their own angst on the weak and unsuspecting.

[tyler]

And so to the demise of another intelligent,loyal member!

I saw Jim's post and personally thought it mild compared to some of the posts that vic has aimed at mike in the past.Particularly the ones that accused mike of masturbating over the crime scene photos  and yet vic remains a member here. Doesn't seem logical to me.Not at all 

[maggie]

Just get so fed up with this shit. I will take a break. Be well.

Alias, we need you, please don't go.xxxx

[lookout]

And so to the demise of another intelligent,loyal member!

I saw Jim's post and personally thought it mild compared to some of the posts that vic has aimed at mike in the past.Particularly the ones that accused mike of masturbating over the crime scene photos  and yet vic remains a member here. Doesn't seem logical to me.Not at all 

That post was quite sickening and below the belt,tyler,I agree with you there. Treading on eggshells springs to mind there,,though it shouldn't be that way. It depends who you are.!!!

[Roch]

I'd like to add my take on this,  though it may be important to note that I did not witness the fall out from Jim's post.

I don't have a problem with Mike being repeatedly challenged regarding the three notorious claims... alleged 'itemised phone bill' / 'informant' / 'bed photo'.

What I do find frustrating is when members employ a really narrow approach.  When members limit themselves almost entirely to this kind of challenging , displaying a breathless amount of negativity and dismissiveness towards other numerous aspects that they simply don't bother to debate or challenge at all.

The other thing I find frustrating are the repeated and deliberate attempts to get Mike Tesko to explode in anger, so that said members or others will then inevitably point out how wrong this is etc. 

I'm not condoning Mike's excesses and am more than happy to see Mike challenged / moderated etc. Obviously I would like Mike to show more restraint.  But a lack of restraint on the part of Mike shouldn't be a green card for others to bear bait.

That's my twopenneth...