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Offline tyler

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2013, 08:11:AM »
No problem Mike. What number pages?,as I cannot see until I am at my pc.

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #151 on: May 11, 2013, 08:28:AM »
No problem Mike. What number pages?,as I cannot see until I am at my pc.

That is the problem, I am concerned about, I have something in mind which needs to be sorted out, and it concerns the contents of the page with what I believe to be part of Sheila's palm print from her right hand -  what I need to know, is if the page contents and corresponding page numbers in the following image correspond exact to the same page contents, and page number in your copy version of your bible?
« Last Edit: May 11, 2013, 08:30:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #152 on: May 11, 2013, 11:52:AM »
It becomes clear to me why the police attempted to conceal access to the bible for Bambers defence solicitors and experts prior to the commencement of trial, and why the exhibit list was tampered with, by including the bible as an exhibit at trial (reference added in by different typewriter / typeface)...

In answer to somebody's question as to the whereabouts of the bible now,it was handed to the relatives.

Does this therefore mean, that the victims' relatives were handed back a bible with a potential bloodied palm print upon it?  Given that the relatives have theorised among themselves as to what took place that night, is it a pertinant question to ask where they see this piece of blood evidence fitting in to the sequence of events?  I cant imagine somebody as sharp and keen eyed as Ann, not spotting a bloodied palm print on a bible handed back to the family?

And if the police attempted to conceal this from the defence as asserted by Mike, in what kind of situation would they they hand something evidential back to the relatives, that they had previously concealed from the defence?
« Last Edit: May 11, 2013, 11:55:AM by Roch »

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #153 on: May 11, 2013, 12:00:PM »
Most likely the relative wouldn't have been interested in the bible for " something to read " or as a memento,,but because it could have thrown up something that nobody wanted to hear about. Anyone with that in mind would surely have taken it away---------------------wouldn't they.?

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #154 on: May 11, 2013, 12:26:PM »
I have to agree Roch, I find it hard to believe  that the blood stain with the appearance of a palm
print would have got past the sharp eyes of Ann Eaton. Strange it wasn't brought up at the trial or mentioned before or since....??
« Last Edit: May 11, 2013, 12:43:PM by maggie »

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #155 on: May 11, 2013, 12:29:PM »
The silencer was returned quick enough.!

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« Reply #156 on: May 11, 2013, 12:35:PM »
I have to agree Roch, I find it hard to believe  that the blood stain with the appearance of a palm
print would have got past the sharp eyes of Ann Eaton. Strange it wasn't brought up at the trual or mentioned before??

Or since!

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« Reply #157 on: May 11, 2013, 12:45:PM »
Or since!
Haha yes Caroline, just added that to my original post before I read yours  ;D

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #158 on: May 11, 2013, 01:00:PM »
Maybe if we asked Vic, he might be able to look in to the matter.  he might not... but it's worth a try.

Vic are you able to help with the following:

Was the bloodstained bible returned to the relatives?

Have any relatives made the same connection as Caroline, regarding the nature/source of the stain, i.e. partial palm print?

If so, how do the relatives see this as fitting in to the sequence of events?

What is the opinion of the relatives in relation to how the partial palm print seems to knit with the finger-like marks on the nightdress?

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #159 on: May 11, 2013, 01:11:PM »
I take my hat off to Rochs' diplomacy. A quality that I'm quite envious of.

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« Reply #160 on: May 11, 2013, 01:13:PM »
I take my hat off to Rochs' diplomacy. A quality that I'm quite envious of.

Cheers... That's a kind compliment. 

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« Reply #161 on: May 11, 2013, 02:48:PM »
Maybe if we asked Vic, he might be able to look in to the matter.  he might not... but it's worth a try.

Vic are you able to help with the following:

Was the bloodstained bible returned to the relatives?

Have any relatives made the same connection as Caroline, regarding the nature/source of the stain, i.e. partial palm print?

If so, how do the relatives see this as fitting in to the sequence of events?

What is the opinion of the relatives in relation to how the partial palm print seems to knit with the finger-like marks on the nightdress?

If it was returned, do they still have it?

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #162 on: May 11, 2013, 02:49:PM »
Hey Caroline so sorry, am on my phone and I think I just deleted your post .....really sorryxx

Thought I was going mad there!!  :P ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #163 on: May 11, 2013, 02:51:PM »
I pose the following question for consideration and debate:-

Which bible was returned to relatives, (a) blue coloured one shown in crime scene photographs, or (b) the missing black coloured bible, that nobody has been told anything about?

Answer is very important...
« Last Edit: May 11, 2013, 02:51:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #164 on: May 11, 2013, 02:51:PM »
Thought I was going mad there!!  :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
apologies my finger slipped  ;D ;D