I'm still confused....

[Patti]

Hi Patti maybe you should have bleat bleat bleat

Maybe I should have blarted and got arrested like Luggs goat....

[lookout]

I wonder if Lucy Pargeter is any relation.Quite an unusual surname. It's she,Chas,from Emmerdale.

[susan]

Patti would you mind explaining to me what blarting is

[Jane]

In all seriousness April, I would NEVER refer to Tesko as 'a sick man' because of his illness. I referred to him as a sick man because he was writing and threatening to write more, of his experiences as the dead corpse of Sheila Caffell. As far as I'm aware, cancer doesn't make you write such garbage nor does it make you tell lies.

I exercised my choice and didn't read any further than the first line. It wasn't to my taste and emulated the storyline in "The Lovely Bones" which was the spirit speaking of a young girl who'd been raped and murdered. It made several best sellers lists and has been made into a film. Intellectually I didn't find the piece any worse than those by posters who reinterpret what authors say.

I don't know how much knowledge you have of cancer, I would hope little/none of the personal kind, but there are several which cause personality changes. I believe it cannot fail to alter ones perspective on life.

[Jane]

Maybe I should have blarted and got arrested like Luggs goat....

Patti, did you mean BLarted

[vidvic]

I exercised my choice and didn't read any further than the first line. It wasn't to my taste and emulated the storyline in "The Lovely Bones" which was the spirit speaking of a young girl who'd been raped and murdered. It made several best sellers lists and has been made into a film. Intellectually I didn't find the piece any worse than those by posters who reinterpret what authors say.

I don't know how much knowledge you have of cancer, I would hope little/none of the personal kind, but there are several which cause personality changes. I believe it cannot fail to alter ones perspective on life.

Personality / change of life outlook I can buy into, but when used as a threat, not acceptable.

[Jane]

Personality / change of life outlook I can buy into, but when used as a threat, not acceptable.

Vic, I didn't see the words which were said so I can't say if they were a statement of intent or a statement of capability, but I suspect that if we, that is you and I, both read one of Mikes offerings we likely would interpret differently.

[Patti]

Patti would you mind explaining to me what blarting is

Its what sheep do isn't...oh no, they Barrrrrrr....a goat blarts...a cow moo's and I moan...lol 

[tyler]

This is the way I see it...In the grand scheme of things,and certainly with regards to the Bamber case,Mike is not particularly important.(No offence Mike).So,if Mike's recollections of past events show inconsistances,it is harmful to no-one. On the other hand,inconsistances in prosecution witness statements can often be due to dishonesty,and if that dishonesty convicted and continues to keep a possibly innocent man incarcerated,then surely,that is much more serious and very worrying?

[Jane]

This is the way I see it...In the grand scheme of things,and certainly with regards to the Bamber case,Mike is not particularly important.(No offence Mike).So,if Mike's recollections of past events show inconsistances,it is harmful to no-one. On the other hand,inconsistances in prosecution witness statements can often be due to dishonesty,and if that dishonesty convicted and continues to keep a possibly innocent man incarcerated,then surely,that is much more serious and very worrying?

Absolutely, Tyler. Which of us has perfect recall? Be it Mike's memories of conversations with Jeremy, the familys' memories of who was where, who said what, to whom OR my own memories of what I did yesterday

[Bridget]

I find it difficult to believe that Mike had 'forgotten' he had stolen the photo from Ewen's office (or conference room) when he made those posts. He has also recently 'admitted' that he didn't tell JB he had taken it, and still hasn't. I have seen so many different versions of 'photo-on-the-bed-gate' that I struggle to remember which one is the current supposed 'truth'. I'm not concerned about why his stories are inconsistent, but the fact that they are makes anything and everything he says potentially unreliable. I don't think it's unreasonable for Vic, who has been quite open about where his loyalties lie, to highlight that fact, especially in light of some of the frankly obnoxious accusations Mike has been making in the last couple of days.

[tyler]

The fact that there are inconsistances in Mikes stories make anything and everything he says potentially unreliable,you say? Well surely then,that same opinion would refer too,to the prosecution witness statements? Difference is,that Mike hasn't signed any legal documents or stood in a court of law to recount these "inconsistancies,where  a persons liberty was at stake.

[Bridget]

The fact that there are inconsistances in Mikes stories make anything and everything he says potentially unreliable,you say? Well surely then,that same opinion would refer too,to the prosecution witness statements? Difference is,that Mike hasn't signed any legal documents or stood in a court of law to recount these "inconsistancies,where  a persons liberty was at stake.

I do think it's natural that memory fades, particularly if you are comparing a statement made in say 1985 with a response to a question at trial in 1986, or even an interview with police in 1991. It's a matter of degree though. It's normal to forget fine details such as who told you something, it's not normal to forget that you stole a potentially life changing piece of evidence.

[Jane]

I do think it's natural that memory fades, particularly if you are comparing a statement made in say 1985 with a response to a question at trial in 1986, or even an interview with police in 1991. It's a matter of degree though. It's normal to forget fine details such as who told you something, it's not normal to forget that you stole a potentially life changing piece of evidence.

I think when someone gains a reputation for telling tall stories, those who hear them will say "Yeah, yeah. Whatever" but it won't effect their belief in their mutual cause. There is nothing that either Mike or Vic say that will alter my opinion. In one regard they are similar. Neither was there at the time. Both have to rely on what is told them by those who were.

[mike tesko]

I do think it's natural that memory fades, particularly if you are comparing a statement made in say 1985 with a response to a question at trial in 1986, or even an interview with police in 1991. It's a matter of degree though. It's normal to forget fine details such as who told you something, it's not normal to forget that you stole a potentially life changing piece of evidence.

Its not normal to know that you handed a silrncer to police on 11th September 1985, and remember it as though the silencer in quesyion was handed to police on evening of 12th August 1985, almost a month earlier - how can you forget somrthing like that, silencer was handed over by Ann Eaton after Jeremy was in custody sfter his first srrest, not before he was arrested - funny how relatives rrmember all the things which painted Jeremy in a poor light...