I'm still confused....

[jon]

If only members could post the same time line of proof, Vidvic, that the police/special branch/ relatives stories have changed as dramatically as waht you're posting shows.

Good job.

The timeline of AE first statement is very interesting to my mind , no mention of a
silencer/moderator !! That went on to be described as having blood upon it !!

[vidvic]

Mike asks himself a question he already knew.....

Who took the actual video crime scene footage?

Somebody is not telling the truth about when the crime scene photographs, and the video of the crime scene, were actually taken, or who actually took them?

Hold on a minute Mike......Don't you already know?

Sheila was filmed using a video recorder whilst F. S. U. Officers carried a training exercise at the scene with the bodies of the victims still in siitu, at which time Sheila had a significant amount of additional blood around her mouth, on her face and throat - this footage was taken by (Z)...

Ah, that's better....Roch seemed incredulous.....

MT - Somebody gave Sheila CPR, as filmed on video footage taken by (Z)...

ROCH - What, THE 'Z'?

MT - One and the same......

[lookout]

I can feel desperation running through this thread like a river in full flood.

Me too,April,,with the speed of a Porsche,or a TGV.

[vidvic]

I can feel desperation running through this thread like a river in full flood.

What am I possibly desperate about???

[lookout]

What am I possibly desperate about???

Vidvic,,I've got to hand it to you,,you've never " said " so much in one go since I've been on the forum.

[lookout]

Vidvic,,I've got to hand it to you,,you've never " said " so much in one go since I've been on the forum.

You've hardly stopped for breath.

[vidvic]

Rest assured, everybody, this is a still image taken from the crime scene video which was filmed at the scene during the training exercise and which ended up in the possession of F.S.U:-

Image taken from video of crime scene is genuine, don't let anybody try to tell any of you that it is not:-

Really??

[vidvic]

April 25th 2004 - Mike, I thought Jeremy didn't know you were sending the photo??

I sent the original to Jeremy at HMP Full sutton in a large envelope with a short note explaining that this was the photograph I told him about which I found in an album whilst visiting Ewen Smith at his offices in Birmingham earlier in the day. I have previously said that I did not take a photograph of it which is true. What actually happened was that I removed the photograph from the album for the purpose of sending it to Jeremy. I stole it to send it to jeremy...

[vidvic]

April 29th 2012 - Good news for Jeremy....

Well, its good news ( I think) because the computer onto which the picture was copied, although an old system, is in storage and I may be able to recover the file in question...

I am taking advice...

[Jane]

What am I possibly desperate about???

Vic Hello As you've asked the question, it would be rude if I didn't respond. You have run through this thread like a dose of salts in an attempt to show that Mike is lying, ok, has lied. Why is it so important for us to know that? If we suppose for a moment that you're correct, what has changed? Jeremy is still behind bars, safely, despite being a model prisoner, downgraded, at someones behest, from cat.B to cat.A and that fact seems unlikely to change.

OK, things have been said, questions raised about the integrity of the wider family. Why, under the circumstances would they not be? If, throughout all the proceedings they have told the whole unvarnished truth, they have nothing to worry about. They may not like what is said but probably 99% of people who post here haven't a clue who they are and wouldn't recognize them from Adam. Most of us here are intelligent enough to make up our own minds about them. Little, if anything, that is said by you or Mike will make any difference to our beliefs. For those who believe him guilty, he's already in prison. For those who believe him innocent, he's still in prison. Nothing changes.

[mertol22]

Ive never quite understood why guilty members have such views, jeremy was guilty in 1986  not at the time of the events but after, its almost every posting that i see guilty posters terrified something may not ring true with  now passed events.

[Jane]

Ive never quite understood why guilty members have such views, jeremy was guilty in 1986  not at the time of the events but after, its almost every posting that i see guilty posters terrified something may not ring true with  now passed events.

Yes Mertol. It sometimes feels as if the verdict was not enough and there has to be something MORE incriminating.

[Caroline R]

Yes Mertol. It sometimes feels as if the verdict was not enough and there has to be something MORE incriminating.

I totally agree April but what really nags at me is that if there is a discrepancy on the side of innocence, it's obviously a lie or someone being underhanded. However, if someone points out similar issues pertaining to the families testimony, there is an immediate onslaught of posts from certain members from the guilty side which are tantamount to a baying crowd ready to stone anyone daring to bring into question (even slightly) the integrity of the families statements!! The family are as much a part of this case as Jeremy Bamber and as such, there are bound to be issues raised that question what they said at the time, given that there are many inconsistencies!!

I find some of the points raised by Jon quite interesting - I wonder if they will be answered?

[ngb1066]

Mike asks himself a question he already knew.....

Who took the actual video crime scene footage?

Somebody is not telling the truth about when the crime scene photographs, and the video of the crime scene, were actually taken, or who actually took them?

Hold on a minute Mike......Don't you already know?

Sheila was filmed using a video recorder whilst F. S. U. Officers carried a training exercise at the scene with the bodies of the victims still in siitu, at which time Sheila had a significant amount of additional blood around her mouth, on her face and throat - this footage was taken by (Z)...

Ah, that's better....Roch seemed incredulous.....

MT - Somebody gave Sheila CPR, as filmed on video footage taken by (Z)...

ROCH - What, THE 'Z'?

MT - One and the same......

I am not sure what point you are trying to make here Vic.  This thread is a bit difficult to follow.

[Caroline R]

I am not sure what point you are trying to make here Vic.  This thread is a bit difficult to follow.

I agree, I asked the same question several million posts back!!