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I'm still confused....
« on: April 22, 2013, 11:32:AM »
In 2011 we were told this....

it was during this same meeting, between Ewen and myself at his office in Birmingham, in 2003, that Ewen showed me an album of photographs which had not previously been disclosed to Jeremy or his legal team, which had been loaned to him by Essex police on the understanding that the contents remained confidential. To be specific, Ewen did not actually show me any of the pictures, he simply had them brought into the conference room where we were having our discussion, and he said that he was going out for five minutes, leaving me with the impression that he wanted me to look at the photographs in his absence.  This was when I saw the pantograph of Sheila on the bed...

I now think it was Ewen's way of showing me, that what Dr Craig had told him, was true, and that Sheila had been on the bed when he viewed her body at the scene, and not on the floor by the side of the bed...

When I spoke to Jeremy, on the phone that evening, I told him what Ewen had told me, and the fact that I had seen a picture of Sheila on the bed...

Weeks later, Jeremy disposed of the services of Ewen, and employed "Giovanni De Stafanno" (GDS), as his legal representative...
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2013, 11:35:AM »
Further in thread.....

I am not saying that Ewen said to me, look here, this is photographic proof that Sheila was found on the bed, because that never took place, but Ewen excused himself from the conference room saying he would be back in five minutes because he had something urgent to attend to, and at the time he left those three albums were left upon the desk. Before he left the room he did tell me that he had been provided by Essex police some photographs which had not been disclosed before, on the basis that disclosure of them was on a confidential nature...
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2013, 11:36:AM »
Detail.....

The photographer was stood at the foot of the bed, looking back towards the bed - Sheila was laid on top of the bed, on top of the blanket not laying directly on the bed sheet. she did not have a gun on her body, and was wearing only her light blue colored nightie - (part of content removed because to some it may have been offensive)...

That evening when I spoke to Jeremy on the telephone, I relayed all of this to him, and this is what sparked us off trying to find out what had happened - (part of content removed because to some it may have been offensive)...
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2013, 11:40:AM »
Dr Craig, told Ewen that Sheila was ön the bed,and whilst visiting Ewen at his office in Birmingham in 2003, I saw a photo on the bed, and Ann Eaton was told by a policeman, that  Sheila was found on the bed...
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 11:42:AM »
How could DS Jones,  seize the following three exhibits, SBJ/4, SBJ/3, SBJ/2, on 7th August 1985, and yet be handed a silencer,  SBJ/1, by Peter Eaton, on evening of 12th August 1985? It doesn't add up, it doesn't make sense, DS Jones, Peter Eaton, and other relatives are lying about the origins of this silencer...
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 11:43:AM »
By september 2011 the date had changed.....

I am prepared to take a lie detector test to prove Sheila was on bed in photo'...

I saw a photograph of Sheila on the bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham, in 2004...

He knows the photograph exists, I will take a lie detector test, will he?
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 11:45:AM »
Somebody arrange a lie detector test for me to take, and I will prove that such a photograph which shows Sheila was found on the bed without a gun on her body exists, and that I saw it when I visited Ewen Smiths office in 2004...
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 11:49:AM »
By september 2011 a telephone call in 2003 has turned into a letter in 2004....

Lets look at it from another angle...

Why after that visit (to see Ewen in Birmingham, in 2004) did I write immediately to Jeremy telling him that I had seen such a photograph with Sheila on the bed with no gun on her body and no blood running from the corners of her mouth, if it wasn't true?

I am, sure that Jeremy will have saved the letter I wrote to him on that occasion confirming what I have been saying about what I saw and witnessed?
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 11:52:AM »
Ann Eaton collected up Sheola's bloodstained knickers which were soaking in a bucket of cold watrr in the kitvhen at whf, and took them home along with the silencer (SBJ/1) already found by Jones on 7th August...
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 11:53:AM »
Ewen must have returned them to the police?.....


I know that when the file got transferred to Giovani de Stafano, that none of these images/pictures was present so Ewen Must have returned them to Essex police before handing the file over to him...
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 11:56:AM »
This resulted in Ewen being sacked....

It couldn't happen that such a test would suggest I was lying, because I am not lying...

Why would I lie about something like that?

Why would I write a letter to Jeremy as soon as I visited Ewen Smith in his office at Birmingham (2004) and tell him that I had seen a photo of Sheila on the bed which Ewen had been sent by Essex police in the strictest confidence? Why would Jeremy then dispose of Ewen Smiths services?
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 11:57:AM »
Relatives removed firearms , accessories, and boxes of ammunition from gun cupboard on 10 th August 1985, yet it was all still there in the gun cupboard on 11th September 1985, when DC Oakey went to whf and was handes these from the gun cupboard by Ann Eaton...
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 12:03:PM »
Ann Eaton wrote down "David told me he had got something up his sleeve", after Jeremy was initially arrested at the begginning of September - it had someyhimg to do with the dodggy silencer, and his visit to whf wiyh police on 12th September 1985...
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 12:04:PM »
Further confirmation that this was the cause of Ewen's sacking......

I used to get on very well with Jeremy, and Ewen Smith back in 2004, I never for one moment imagined or anticipated that the working relationship between all of us would become some strained...

I felt at that time that Ewen would have done anything to help Jeremy's cause, and what is more, I felt genuine interest from Ewen in Jeremy's position, as though he would have moved mountains to help get Jeremy cleared of these allegations. Ewen Smith always treated me with the greatest respect despite him knowing that I had been convicted, and that I had spent time in prison...

I know he trusted me...

I saw the photograph of Sheila on the bed, there can be no doubt about that, not only that but once I returned home to Sheffield, I immediately wrote a letter to Jeremy to tell him about the picture of Sheila on the bed I had seen...

Imagine my dismay, to find that by me providing this information to Jeremy about the picture I had seen, was the source which led to the services of Ewen Smith being disposed of? I was caught up in the middle of both Ewen and Jeremy, and it made me feel like I had betrayed the trust which Ewen had placed in me...

I liked Ewen Smith, and I liked Jeremy, but I was made to feel like I had betrayed both of them - not a very nice position to find oneself in...

Sheila was on the bed, there is no doubt at all in my mind, She was on the bed, I saw the photograph, I sent a letter to Jeremy confirming what I had seen, and Jeremy sacked Ewen because he kept this information from him...

Jeremy has my letter, confirming what I reported to him that I had seen when I visited Ewen Smith at his office in Birmingham, why would I lie about something like that, involving two persons that I admired?

I cannot put it any clearer than that...
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Re: I'm still confused....
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2013, 12:09:PM »
Was it Ewen or an assistant that left them there?....

Was it his office or a conference room?....

With my hand on my heart I cannot honestly say that Ewen saw that photograph in my presence - he simply left the album with me whilst he went off for five minutes to carry out other duties...

Although I got the impression he knew about the picture because he left the album in my possession and under my control, he never personally drew my attention to that picture, I simply browsed through the album on the desk, because I got the impression he wanted me to look at the pictures in the album that Essex police had sent to him in confidence...

I got the impression that Ewen wanted me to look at the pictures after he left the room...

One of his colleagues (a lady) brought the photographs, into the office where I viewed them...

By the time Ewen returned to his office, the album was where it had been left on his desk...

We never spoke about the contents of the album, after Ewen returned to his office, it was that sort of an arrangement - I think he just wanted me to see its contents...
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