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Offline mike tesko

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Police in a hurry to dispose of bodies, despite having evidence of doubt...

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« Last Edit: April 17, 2013, 11:15:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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The idea that the police were in a hurry to cremate the bodies is disputed in the strongest possible terms.

Bamber was adamant that they should be cremated although the rest of the family believed their wish was to be buried. Colin had the say over the twins, hence they were buried, not cremated.

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The idea that the police were in a hurry to cremate the bodies is disputed in the strongest possible terms.

Bamber was adamant that they should be cremated although the rest of the family believed their wish was to be buried. Colin had the say over the twins, hence they were buried, not cremated.

This might be true to a certain extent, but at the end of the day, police went into overdrive to prevent a second opinion being made by another independant pathologist. Police rushed for body disposal, and nothing any family member, or relative appeared to know or say made the slightest difference. Facts are that police and Coroner dictated when the bodies were disposed of, and it was done too hastily for my liking, as though police wanted it over and done with...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Those of my friends who attened the funeral recall being amazed by, what they regarded as, the unseemly haste with which they were conducted.

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April  I feel Jeremy Bamber cannot be blamed for that as he seems to be for most things :(

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April  I feel Jeremy Bamber cannot be blamed for that as he seems to be for most things :(



It's good to feel that there's something he can't be blamed for, Susan.

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Bless. Why did he go against their wishes and have them cremated. Why did he sign for the destruction of the carpets??? Why oh why.......
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Bless. Why did he go against their wishes and have them cremated. Why did he sign for the destruction of the carpets??? Why oh why.......


Certainly if they had left written instructions regarding their preferences, it would have been thoughtless for him to have gone against them. Regarding the carpets, I understand EP had removed squares to assist with their investigations. Unless this, too, is another myth/legend.

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Bless. Why did he go against their wishes and have them cremated. Why did he sign for the destruction of the carpets??? Why oh why.......

Why would a bunch of highly experienced detectives and soc officers, in a scenario where a multiple shooting victim/perpetrator has been found in a staged position, allow the one and only incident informant, to order the destruction of the main bedroom crime scene and the cremation of bodies?

Especially given that you're a fan of the notion that some junior officers were suspicious. If we run with that line, there were suspicions from the off.

Vic, you've said on here that you've got no reason to believe the police would lie to you.  Don't you wonder to your self that there's even a remote possibility, that you're allowing EP too much license and room to maneuver?




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Why would a bunch of highly experienced detectives and soc officers, in a scenario where a multiple shooting victim/perpetrator has been found in a staged position, allow the one and only incident informant, to order the destruction of the main bedroom crime scene and the cremation of bodies?

Especially given that you're a fan of the notion that some junior officers were suspicious. If we run with that line, there were suspicions from the off.

Vic, you've said on here that you've got no reason to believe the police would lie to you.  Don't you wonder to your self that there's even a remote possibility, that you're allowing EP too much license and room to maneuver?

I wasn't aware that he did 'order' the destruction of carpets etc. Wasn't it suggested 'to' him as oppsed to ordered 'by' him?

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I wasn't aware that he did 'order' the destruction of carpets etc. Wasn't it suggested 'to' him as oppsed to ordered 'by' him?

Fair point.  Let's turn this around for Vic.  Instead of criticising Bamber for signing the destruction order, why not question why the police approached him to do so in the first place?
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Fair point.  Let's turn this around for Vic.  Instead of criticising Bamber for signing the destruction order, why not question why the police approached him to do so in the first place?



I have to concur with that point, Roch. If EP, as a professional body of law enforcers, had believed there to be further milage in those carpets they would not have sought Jeremy's permission to destroy them. What is more, in the unlikely event of Jeremy DEMANDIG them destroyed, I feel perfectly certain that much would have been made of it by the media, at the time, and later, by the prosecution, in court.

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I have to concur with that point, Roch. If EP, as a professional body of law enforcers, had believed there to be further milage in those carpets they would not have sought Jeremy's permission to destroy them. What is more, in the unlikely event of Jeremy DEMANDIG them destroyed, I feel perfectly certain that much would have been made of it by the media, at the time, and later, by the prosecution, in court.

So then we can conclude that EP concluded there was no further mileage in the carpets and sought permission to destroy them rather than become a repository for soiled carpets..meh
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I never used the word demanded, I just said he signed the order. Absolutely believe he couldn't believe his luck! Cremation was disrespectful at best, a good way of destroying evidence at worst.

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So then we can conclude that EP concluded there was no further mileage in the carpets and sought permission to destroy them rather than become a repository for soiled carpets..meh


Bridget, whatever their reason, they must have sought Jeremy's permission for it.