Key mistakes / malfeasance in public office

[maggie]

Hi Roch

I agree with most of what has been said.  I think the major mistake was not to ensure that the crime scene was cordoned off correctly and the other major failure is lack of forensic evidence collected by the scenes of crime officers.  Those two alone had a detrimental effect on Jeremy ever finding any forensic evidence to help him clear his name. 

I also agree with what Caroline said about the destruction of evidence in 1996 during a time when DNA was about to make a remarkable breakthrough. It was such an appalling act of gross misconduct in every sense, especially as Jeremy Bamber was still claiming and continuing to fight for his innocence.  The evidence that was destroyed could have given Jeremy's defence team a major breakthrough and its no use saying that it would not have, because it might well have; and, now we will never know.  Another major factor in all of this is that those who gave the orders to destroy the evidence also knew about the imminent scientific breakthrough in modern science and that is DNA.  Although DNA was around it was not possible to do tests like it is now and, therefore to me it is gross misconduct. 

I'd like to carry on with Stan Jones and his part in the investigation, but will leave that for now. 

The Sound Moderator was clearly the key factor in Jeremy's conviction based on the old fashioned ABO testing.  It is now clear with LCN DNA testing that the court of appeal agree that the LCN DNA taken from the Sound Moderator MAY have belonged to Sheila.  Therefore, this means that no one can be 100% sure that the LCN DNA did in effect belong to her. In my opinion the whole case fails based on this evidence alone, should it be presented in a court of today.   However, there is still the major factor of June's DNA being in the sound moderator, but I fear that this in now inconclusive and again a jury of today might not make a conviction based on this factor alone. 

 :D :D :D :D

The fact is Patti, there are so many 'mistakes' that it's hard to know where to start, or stop.imo 

[Patti]

The fact is Patti, there are so many 'mistakes' that it's hard to know where to start, or stop.imo 

Hi maggie   There is a lot that was withheld from the jury and should they have known certain things then they may have viewed things differently.  Terzeon writes a could report on this.  The police did not find one scrap of evidence at the end of the day?

I'd like someone who knows tell me what actual evidence they found!

Hope you are well...

[maggie]

Hi maggie   There is a lot that was withheld from the jury and should they have known certain things then they may have viewed things differently.  Terzeon writes a could report on this.  The police did not find one scrap of evidence at the end of the day?

I'd like someone who knows tell me what actual evidence they found!

Hope you are well...

That is my question Patti, ..Where is the Evidence?

[Caroline R]

Hi maggie   There is a lot that was withheld from the jury and should they have known certain things then they may have viewed things differently.  Terzeon writes a could report on this.  The police did not find one scrap of evidence at the end of the day?

I'd like someone who knows tell me what actual evidence they found!

Hope you are well...

Think it was mainly Julie's testimony and the silencer. There is nothing else is there?

[Patti]

Think it was mainly Julie's testimony and the silencer. There is nothing else is there?

Did the judge say though, that they should not convict Jeremy on the soul basis of her evidence given in court? Or have I just made that up? lol 

[Jane]

Think it was mainly Julie's testimony and the silencer. There is nothing else is there?

I think much of this is down to what I sais aeons ago. If the police had done a thorough job from the word GO, the likelihood is that after a period of grieving, Jeremy would be living a similar life to the rest of us and we wouldn't be having this conversation on this forum.

[Bridget]

The Sound Moderator was clearly the key factor in Jeremy's conviction based on the old fashioned ABO testing.  It is now clear with LCN DNA testing that the court of appeal agree that the LCN DNA taken from the Sound Moderator MAY have belonged to Sheila.  Therefore, this means that no one can be 100% sure that the LCN DNA did in effect belong to her. In my opinion the whole case fails based on this evidence alone, should it be presented in a court of today.   However, there is still the major factor of June's DNA being in the sound moderator, but I fear that this in now inconclusive and again a jury of today might not make a conviction based on this factor alone.   The sound moderator was an appalling piece of evidence from the onset.  It was handled by many people including the relatives and was placed in the kitchen which was a crime scene.  It was also placed in the boot of a car and could have also been contaminated and mishandled.

 :D :D :D :D

The blood evidence was based on 5 different tests, only one of which was ABO. All of the DNA evidence was rejected because of the possibility of contamination therefore whilst the CoA may agree that the DNA may have belonged to Sheila, they did not agree that it had anything to do with the crime. Same goes for June's DNA, although they accepted for the purposes of JBs argument that it was June's DNA.

[Patti]

The blood evidence was based on 5 different tests, only one of which was ABO. All of the DNA evidence was rejected because of the possibility of contamination therefore whilst the CoA may agree that the DNA may have belonged to Sheila, they did not agree that it had anything to do with the crime. Same goes for June's DNA, although they accepted for the purposes of JBs argument that it was June's DNA.

Oh Hello!!! Who asked you to come out to play? 

Well said!