Real reason Mugford took a month to come forward with her story....

[Lugg]

The Jeremy supporters have to tread carefully as they are well aware with Julie,because it's incompatible with Jeremy's innocence if he told her too much. It was all in his head so Julie thought and she just didn't take him seriously,which one can understand. I'm trying to grasp this new angle of the trick of the light story but so far the light is dimming on this thread as far as I'm concerned.

That is probably because you only believe the light that filters through the chinks of your own roof.

[Alias]

So hard for me to read all this Julie-praise. She is a scumbag one way or the other. If Jeremy is guilty, she was in on it, she could have saved five lives. If Jeremy is innocent, she threw his life away without a second thought. No wonder she quickly gathered her loot and basically fled England.

[mertol22]

So hard for me to read all this Julie-praise. She is a scumbag one way or the other. If Jeremy is guilty, she was in on it, she could have saved five lives. If Jeremy is innocent, she threw his life away without a second thought. No wonder she quickly gathered her loot and basically fled England.

winner take all, steve clearly has no issue with the pay money deal, well i do.

[Caroline R]

So hard for me to read all this Julie-praise. She is a scumbag one way or the other. If Jeremy is guilty, she was in on it, she could have saved five lives. If Jeremy is innocent, she threw his life away without a second thought. No wonder she quickly gathered her loot and basically fled England.

That about sums up my sentiments also Alias!!

[Bridget]

That is probably because you only believe the light that filters through the chinks of your own roof.

That rings bells, is that a quote from someone?

[mike tesko]

During phase 1 of the proceedings Mugford could not possibly have known or suspected that Jeremy had killed his family - she knew about the sighting of a person in the upstairs bedroom window, observed by two police officers and Jeremy, whilst  he was outside in the grounds, so obviously in her mind at that stage, how could Jeremy be responsible for killing someone who was still alive upstairs in the bedroom? Mugford also knew the reason why Jeremy complained to PS Saxby that police had shot and killed his family - she knew that Jeremy thought police had shot his family because at the time news was broke to him about his family all being found dead, jeremy had no idea that anyone had been shot at all, and this was reinforced in his mind because of the sighting of a person alive amd moving around inside the house...

If there was / is any truth at all in Mugfords stories which she introduced along the way, it must have been confusing to think that for a year or so, Jeremy had been openly planning to kill his family, and then along comes Sheila who does the job for him - it must have been Sheila because there was someone still alive, moving around in the upstairs bedroom., and besides police said Sheila had done it...

[mike tesko]

Between phase 1, and phase 2, Mugford went through a period of transformation - she came to realize that Jeremy was showing more interest in other people, rather than her...

[mike tesko]

When phase 2 came along at the beginning of September 1985, Mugford introduced the hitman theory in her attempt to get revenge on Jeremy for dumping her like a piece of garbage in the dustbin. She had to come up with a story like this, to account for the sighting of the person, inside the upstairs bedroom at a time Jeremy was outside in the grounds in the company of the police...

[mike tesko]

When phase 2 came along at the beginning of September 1985, Mugford introduced the hitman theory in her attempt to get revenge on Jeremy for dumping her like a piece of garbage in the dustbin. She had to come up with a story like this, to account for the sighting of the person, inside the upstairs bedroom at a time Jeremy was outside in the grounds in the company of the police...

One of the two police officers, (PCMyall) who witnessed the person moving around in the upstairs bedroom window, requested that a full fingerprint examination should be carried out in the main bedroom, to assist in identifying the person seen by PS Bews, Jeremy, and himself...

[mike tesko]

One of the two police officers, (PCMyall) who witnessed the person moving around in the upstairs bedroom window, requested that a full fingerprint examination should be carried out in the main bedroom, to assist in identifying the person seen by PS Bews, Jeremy, and himself...

Police set up an operation, under the title of, "MAJOR INCIDENT PROJECT", designed to try and identify  unidentified males, females, and motor vehicles. The very first entty in the log refers to a sighting of an unknown man, seen by PC Myall at the scene at 3:45am...

[Lugg]

That rings bells, is that a quote from someone?

Can't remember? I think it was C.H. Spurgeon.

[Steve_uk]

winner take all, steve clearly has no issue with the pay money deal, well i do.

Anji Greaves was waiting ensconced at another London hotel with a £50,000 deal had Jeremy been acquitted. It's the nature of chequebook journalism which I hate but in a free society is difficult to expunge.

[Steve_uk]

During phase 1 of the proceedings Mugford could not possibly have known or suspected that Jeremy had killed his family - she knew about the sighting of a person in the upstairs bedroom window, observed by two police officers and Jeremy, whilst  he was outside in the grounds, so obviously in her mind at that stage, how could Jeremy be responsible for killing someone who was still alive upstairs in the bedroom? Mugford also knew the reason why Jeremy complained to PS Saxby that police had shot and killed his family - she knew that Jeremy thought police had shot his family because at the time news was broke to him about his family all being found dead, jeremy had no idea that anyone had been shot at all, and this was reinforced in his mind because of the sighting of a person alive amd moving around inside the house...

If there was / is any truth at all in Mugfords stories which she introduced along the way, it must have been confusing to think that for a year or so, Jeremy had been openly planning to kill his family, and then along comes Sheila who does the job for him - it must have been Sheila because there was someone still alive, moving around in the upstairs bedroom., and besides police said Sheila had done it...

Julie didn't want to think the worst of a man she was still in love with,which Jeremy sensed and gave her the hitman story sop. How could Julie possibly resign herself to being a de facto accomplice in the murders by her omission in going back to bed after the second telephone call after a day at work feeling the after-effects of cannabis? She was naturally looking for explanations which would exculpate both Jeremy and herself,but none were forthcoming.

[Steve_uk]

When phase 2 came along at the beginning of September 1985, Mugford introduced the hitman theory in her attempt to get revenge on Jeremy for dumping her like a piece of garbage in the dustbin. She had to come up with a story like this, to account for the sighting of the person, inside the upstairs bedroom at a time Jeremy was outside in the grounds in the company of the police...

No,Julie realized that the investigation was taking on a different turn by dint of the relatives' efforts. The last thing Julie wanted was involvement of the Police with her criminal history but her hand was forced by events. If Julie was determined to be believed when she did finally contact Police give her enough nous to concoct a better story than the one she came up with about the hitman which Jeremy had fed her.

[Alias]

Julie didn't want to think the worst of a man she was still in love with,which Jeremy sensed and gave her the hitman story sop. How could Julie possibly resign herself to being a de facto accomplice in the murders by her omission in going back to bed after the second telephone call after a day at work feeling the after-effects of cannabis? She was naturally looking for explanations which would exculpate both Jeremy and herself,but none were forthcoming.

Well, exactly here her story does not add up one bit. According to her, Jeremy called her at 10 pm and said "It´s tonight or never". In her "diary" she writes that she sighed with relief because she assumed it was "end of subject" (), went on to chat with her friends, then went to bed, and when Jeremy called her later in the night, she told him to go back to bed.
Please explain the logic in this to me, because I don´t get it. Was she totally out of it-wasted on drugs, or what???