Margaret Thatcher 1925-2013

[Patti]

Hi Patti thanks, your right dancing in the streets is not for me either, this for me is a time for reflecting, reflecting on how my life would have been had it not been for thatcher how my mum and dads life would have been my 3 brothers lifes would have been my commrades lifes would have been?

Hi ralf...We had it tough in our area didn't we. All mining villages and community spirit was destroyed... people's lives completely shattered and for what? I'm a woman and you do as I say! End of! Her own government through her out in the end, she became power crazy...

[maggie]

What a great post, sadly with Thatcher she divided a country when in power and she has left a country divided about her death. There is no middle ground you either love her or hate her sadly i fall into the later? I only know her as a politician who destroyed the working class Her legacy, therefore, includes the desolate, overgrown industrial wastelands which blight our towns and cities to this day, and the lost skills and prosperity of hard-working working class families across the land.”“She privatised our utilities, our energy, our railways and buses, our steel, our coal and much more. She introduced compulsory competitive tendering in our Local Authorities and openly encouraged private companies to win the bids by smashing workers’ terms and conditions. This is why we are paying today for her legacy not to mention the milk, the council houses, the 15 per cent interest rates the high unemployment and last the benefit culture we have today which thatcher created to try and keep the dole figures low?  See your own mother and father queue for their food parcel and collect the 3 pounds a day picketing money for over a year, yes they had a choice either go back to work or fight for your job i am proud to say they did the latter.  Secret files revealed the true motive – to provoke the powerful NUM into a dispute and defeat them, and thus pave the way for the destruction of the rest of the trade union movement, whom she dubbed ‘the enemy within helped along the way with the tory press baron Rupert Murdoch? This is a leader of british people and these are her own words when people talk of her being the iron lady they have short memories of the legacy she has left behind.

Hi Ralf, good to see you back on the forum, have missed you.  I agree a great post from Alias and from you.  Huge party in suburb of Bristol last night celebrating her demise....not my style either.  As you say it brings back many memories of how ordinary people suffered in that era.  We're still paying the price for her premiership and many believe the credit crunch etc. was due to Thatcher's financial policies in the 1980s.  I think you had to live it to be aware of all that happened during that time. 

[guest7363]

Hi Ralf

good to see you on the forum I have really missed you.  An excellent post and my sentiments exactly. She divided families in the mining towns with Fathers on the picket line and their sons crossing it she was hell bent on destroying the unions and she was successful.  She was a ruthless cold woman who would stop at nothing to achieve her ambitions.  Did not harm me personally but I have seen plenty of broken people.

Thanks Susan really have missed you and Patti too.  I have no feelings for her i dont look at her on the tv, otherwise i would have to keep buying new tv sets lol? 

[susan]

Dear ralp  I can really understand how you feel and many more like you that were so badly affected by her ruthlessness and no point in pretending you are sad she has passed on but like you and Patti I could never be so disrespectful by dancing in the streets as I was never affected by her personally but knew people who were and never recovered from it she broke people's spirits and really she got so carried away with herself she became like Napoleon and was the cause of her own downfall.

[guest7363]

Hi Ralf, good to see you back on the forum, have missed you.  I agree a great post from Alias and from you.  Huge party in suburb of Bristol last night celebrating her demise....not my style either.  As you say it brings back many memories of how ordinary people suffered in that era.  We're still paying the price for her premiership and many believe the credit crunch etc. was due to Thatcher's financial policies in the 1980s.  I think you had to live it to be aware of all that happened during that time. 

Hi Maggie missed you as well, it was going to happen you cannot sell off everything and expect to survive everyone of us are paying the price, she hoped by making the rich get richer this in turn would pass down the ladder sadly hasnt happened the gap has and wiil continue to widen?  I watched a interview with Edwina Curry who was south derbyshire MP, she talked thatcher up and how wonderful she was with the south derbyshire miners who worked during the miners strike, edwina said she put her hand on the shoulders of the miners and said during the strike TRUST ME, what edwina fails to tell everyone after the strike she closed their pits?  She was heartless my uncle believed in her and worked in nottingham mines during the strike she closed his pit before ours.

[maggie]

Hi Maggie missed you as well, it was going to happen you cannot sell off everything and expect to survive everyone of us are paying the price, she hoped by making the rich get richer this in turn would pass down the ladder sadly hasnt happened the gap has and wiil continue to widen?  I watched a interview with Edwina Curry who was south derbyshire MP, she talked thatcher up and how wonderful she was with the south derbyshire miners who worked during the miners strike, edwina said she put her hand on the shoulders of the miners and said during the strike TRUST ME, what edwina fails to tell everyone after the strike she closed their pits?  She was heartless my uncle believed in her and worked in nottingham mines during the strike she closed his pit before ours.

I saw Edwina, on the news today Ralph.  Shameful really Edwina Currie has nothing to be proud of but she likes to be seen as Margaret's friend......I would think Mrs Thatcher barely knew who she was. All those promises about cheap fuel etc. haha, that was a good joke, ever been conned?

[guest7363]

Hi ralf...We had it tough in our area didn't we. All mining villages and community spirit was destroyed... people's lives completely shattered and for what? I'm a woman and you do as I say! End of! Her own government through her out in the end, she became power crazy...

Besides i have two left feet Patti.  No its not for me although elvis costello made a fitting song talking of how monsterous she could be?

[susan]

Hi Mags

I am really surprised Bernard Ingham has not been interviewed as he was very close to her for 11 years. Maybe he is not posh enough as he was not liked in Westminster by MP's.  Maybe he will do a book and make a few bob as we say in Yorkshire   Maybe getting his eyebrows threaded before going on the teli.

[nugnug]

its not unusael for a world leaders death to celbrated but very rarely in there own country.

i think of many world leaders off the top of my head that have had this particular honor.

[guest154]

  Maybe getting his eyebrows threaded before going on the teli.

 

[maggie]

Hi Mags

I am really surprised Bernard Ingham has not been interviewed as he was very close to her for 11 years. Maybe he is not posh enough as he was not liked in Westminster by MP's.  Maybe he will do a book and make a few bob as we say in Yorkshire   Maybe getting his eyebrows threaded before going on the teli.

Would think it'll be a two week job threading those eyebrows susie

[susan]

Hello Mat   

[Lugg]

Joanne1  I did not imply or certainly did not mean to imply that your Father did not work hard.  All I was saying the poll tax system suited some people but not others and it will never be possible to please everyone.

It was a tax that suited therich and also benefited them more than it did the poor. To the majority of the rich the poor are thought of as lazy scroungers and nothing else. Their philosophy was pull yourself up by yourown boot laces.

[lookout]

Come on,Mat,,,we're a minority here. 

[Lugg]

Hi Patti thanks, your right dancing in the streets is not for me either, this for me is a time for reflecting, reflecting on how my life would have been had it not been for thatcher how my mum and dads life would have been my 3 brothers lifes would have been my commrades lifes would have been?

I agree. The dancing in the streets was sick in my opinion. We should never glory in the death of anyone.