Spent bullet cases in the bedroom

[shonapugs]

Hi, curiousessex. Could you please tell me how the position of Sheila's nightdress beneath her was explained in "Blood Relations"?  Thanks.....

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

I can speak now - yes, DC Henderson was present at the scene, during the re-enactment, conducted by the second group of firearms officers, whose duty was to re-enact the operation which was conducted inside the farmhouse at thy e time when the original team of firearms officers went into the premises...

DC Henderson (SOC) helped a press officer to produce a video of the scene, before, during and after this second group of officers, carried out the re-enactment - culminating in the mistakes which were made by the original team being identified...

DC Henderson's role at the scene, was transferred on an imaginary basis, to DC Hammersely, who allegedly performed the duties which DC Henderson performed, before, during and after the re-enactment took place inside whf between 9am and 9:22am...

DC Hammersely was disciplined for telling lies about being on duty at whf, on the morning of the shootings (7th August 1985) since, he did not work on that particular date at all...

So why do you think both Henderson and Hammersley were fingerprinted for elimination purposes as being among the officers who entered WHF that morning?

[curiousessex]

Hi, curiousessex. Could you please tell me how the position of Sheila's nightdress beneath her was explained in "Blood Relations"?  Thanks.....

I will endeavour to look in up..............

[curiousessex]

In my opinion, if one had made a decision to commit suicide having prepared oneself for the act and then made the decision to pull the trigger without success a second pull of the trigger would seem to be a logical next step. In such a scenario, two pulls of the trigger are likely to occur within a few seconds of each other.

For me, the flow of blood from both wounds, given the same majority general blood flow from each of the wounds appears to support the wounds occurring within a few seconds of each other.

If this was the case, then one would expect to see two spent cases near Sheila’s body.

According to the layout diagram posted for the spent cases in the bedroom there are two spent cases near Sheila’s body. These spent cases being identified as DRH / 1 and DRH / 2.

However these spent cases are either side of Sheila’s body.

From pictures of the same type of semi automatic weapons, from the same manufacturer,  it appears that spent cases are ejected away to the right hand side of the weapon.

According to the pictures of Sheila’s body, as posted on this forum, the weapon is laying on Sheila’s body with the case ejection facility laying directly against the body. If both shots have occurred within a few seconds of each other, surely it is likely both spent cases would be on the same side of her body (unless the weapon had been used either way round for each shot or Sheila had moved herself around the position of the Bible before pulling the trigger for the second fatal shot).

If the position of the body and the position of the weapon as depicted in those photographs are generally correct then the spent case for the fatal shot would surely be in the direction towards the bed.

[mike tesko]

I can speak now - yes, DC Henderson was present at the scene, during the re-enactment, conducted by the second group of firearms officers, whose duty was to re-enact the operation which was conducted inside the farmhouse at thy e time when the original team of firearms officers went into the premises...

DC Henderson (SOC) helped a press officer to produce a video of the scene, before, during and after this second group of officers, carried out the re-enactment - culminating in the mistakes which were made by the original team being identified...

DC Henderson's role at the scene, was transferred on an imaginary basis, to DC Hammersely, who allegedly performed the duties which DC Henderson performed, before, during and after the re-enactment took place inside whf between 9am and 9:22am...

DC Hammersely was disciplined for telling lies about being on duty at whf, on the morning of the shootings (7th August 1985) since, he did not work on that particular date at all...

So why do you think both Henderson and Hammersley were fingerprinted for elimination purposes as being among the officers who entered WHF that morning?

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both included for different reasons, (1) Henderson was there at the scene, and his fingerprints would be required, and (2) DC Hammersley was not there, but the police had to make out he was, so they also included a request for his fingerprints for elimination purposes...

Simple, really...

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

both included for different reasons, (1) Henderson was there at the scene, and his fingerprints would be required, and (2) DC Hammersley was not there, but the police had to make out he was, so they also included a request for his fingerprints for elimination purposes...

Simple, really...

Nothing about this case is simple......surely running with your theory they would have omitted Henderson's name from the list to cover up the fact that he was there.

Why do you think they wanted or needed to transfer the role of DC Henderson onto DC Hammersley?

[mike tesko]

both included for different reasons, (1) Henderson was there at the scene, and his fingerprints would be required, and (2) DC Hammersley was not there, but the police had to make out he was, so they also included a request for his fingerprints for elimination purposes...

Simple, really...

Nothing about this case is simple......surely running with your theory they would have omitted Henderson's name from the list to cover up the fact that he was there.

Why do you think they wanted or needed to transfer the role of DC Henderson onto DC Hammersley?

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For operational reasons, I suppose - one of which, DC Henderson, may have been the officer who collected up most of the bullet cases from the scene, in their original locations...