Proof that Police knew about a silencer on 9th August 1985

[mike tesko]

If silencer SBJ/1 was the same silencer as DB/1, how did it end up back in the possession of the relatives to enable Peter Eaton to hand it over to DS Jones, on the evening of 12th August 1985, considering that by 7:30pm, on the evening of 9th August 1985, DS "Stan" Jones, and DCI "Taff" Jones, already knew about the existence of a silencer, which they spoke to Jeremy about at his cottage, 9 Head Street, Goldhanger?

It does not make sense, and cannot be reconciled with the details of the prosecutions case, as alleged at the time of Bambers trial, in October 1986...

In my opinion...

[mike tesko]

I am also very interested, in finding out, which of these two different, identical looking Parker Hale silencers, (SBJ/1 and DB/1) was dismantled by DI Cook (SOC) on 29th August 1985, rebuilt, and screwed onto the end of the bloodstained Bamber rifle, before both were re-submitted to the Lab' for examination on 30th August 1985, inside which was found the crucial flake of blood, that produced the blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1)?

I think I missed the bit about him dismantling it. Is there a document to show that?

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Photographic record, only...

I will post the necessary linked pictures for your thoughts, and attention:-

[Kaldin]

Thanks but that doesn't say who took it to bits and when.

[mike tesko]

Baffle plates, at time Cook (SOC) dismantled silencer, and rebuilt it, before screwing it onto the barrel of the bloodstained Bamber rifle, had the jaws of the baffle plates, downward facing, at this time, which by 29th April 1986, had become upward facing...

Baffle ;plates had been turned "head over heels", between 29th August 1985, and 29th April 1986 - but for what purpose, or reason?

[mike tesko]

Thanks but that doesn't say who took it to bits and when.

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I cannot publish evidence that proves it was DI Cook (SOC) and that he did it on 29th August 1985, but you will either have to accept what I am saying about this, or wait until the matter comes to court, if it ever comes to court...

However, I think I am allowed to post a copy of a handwritten note, sent by COOK to the ballistics expert, on 30th August 1985, to Fletcher, which deals with these events, where Cook prompts Fletcher, along the lines that this is the Bamber rifle, which Cook has been speaking to him about...

In the meantime, please look at, and consider this - an Essex police record which confirms that by 9am, on 9th August 1985, police knew about the silencer in the gun cupboard:-

[mike tesko]

I should think that all of our members will now be more than satisfied, that Essex police knew about a silencer, at the scene, long before the relatives allegedly found a silencer in the gun cupboard, in the "den" at whf, on 11th September 1985, or as the case may be, by 10th August 1985?

So, who is conning who, about these different silencers?

Essex police?

The relatives?

The DPP?

or, as the case may be:-

Mike Tesko?

[mike tesko]

I am deeply troubled by these different identical looking Parer Hale Silencers...

[mike tesko]

I am deeply troubled by the fact that DS "Stan" Jones, and DCI "Taff" Jones, were questioning Jeremy about the silencer at 7:30pm, on evening of 9th August 1985, and that Essex police were recording documentation saying that a silencer was in their possession by 9am, on 9th August 1985?

Somebody is not telling the truth, about these silencers...

[Kaldin]

Thanks but that doesn't say who took it to bits and when.

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I cannot publish evidence that proves it was DI Cook (SOC) and that he did it on 29th August 1985, but you will either have to accept what I am saying about this, or wait until the matter comes to court, if it ever comes to court...

However, I think I am allowed to post a copy of a handwritten note, sent by COOK to the ballistics expert, on 30th August 1985, to Fletcher, which deals with these events, where Cook prompts Fletcher, along the lines that this is the Bamber rifle, which Cook has been speaking to him about...

In the meantime, please look at, and consider this - an Essex police record which confirms that by 9am, on 9th August 1985, police knew about the silencer in the gun cupboard:-

The time and date on that is 9 am on 7th August, and I'm not sure what it's referring to - surely not to the items listed - SOC weren't even on the scene at 9 am.

[mike tesko]

Thanks but that doesn't say who took it to bits and when.

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I cannot publish evidence that proves it was DI Cook (SOC) and that he did it on 29th August 1985, but you will either have to accept what I am saying about this, or wait until the matter comes to court, if it ever comes to court...

However, I think I am allowed to post a copy of a handwritten note, sent by COOK to the ballistics expert, on 30th August 1985, to Fletcher, which deals with these events, where Cook prompts Fletcher, along the lines that this is the Bamber rifle, which Cook has been speaking to him about...

In the meantime, please look at, and consider this - an Essex police record which confirms that by 9am, on 9th August 1985, police knew about the silencer in the gun cupboard:-

The time and date on that is 9 am on 7th August, and I'm not sure what it's referring to - surely not to the items listed - SOC weren't even on the scene at 9 am.

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They (DS Davidson) were there from about 8:25am, actually...

[mike tesko]

Why were DS "Stan" Jones, and DCI "Taff" Jones, asking Jeremy questions about the silencer, at 7:30pm, on 9th August 1985, if the police did not already know about a silencer found at the scene by that stage?

[mike tesko]

What siginifcance, if any, can be placed upon the FACT, that DS "Stan" Jones, took possession of four exhibits from the scene on 7th August 1985, bearing the identifying marks, SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4?

Was it just a coincidence that the silencer (SBJ/1) was originally given DS Jones, exhibit reference, by 13th August 1985?

[Kaldin]

Thanks but that doesn't say who took it to bits and when.

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I cannot publish evidence that proves it was DI Cook (SOC) and that he did it on 29th August 1985, but you will either have to accept what I am saying about this, or wait until the matter comes to court, if it ever comes to court...

However, I think I am allowed to post a copy of a handwritten note, sent by COOK to the ballistics expert, on 30th August 1985, to Fletcher, which deals with these events, where Cook prompts Fletcher, along the lines that this is the Bamber rifle, which Cook has been speaking to him about...

In the meantime, please look at, and consider this - an Essex police record which confirms that by 9am, on 9th August 1985, police knew about the silencer in the gun cupboard:-

The time and date on that is 9 am on 7th August, and I'm not sure what it's referring to - surely not to the items listed - SOC weren't even on the scene at 9 am.

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They (DS Davidson) were there from about 8:25am, actually...

But DC Bird didn't even photograph the scene until much later - you said that yourself. How could the gun and bullet cartridges have been fingerprinted before that?

Are you suggesting that a silencer was found in the gun cupboard well before 9 am on 7th August?

[Kaldin]

Oh, and according to one log, Davidson didn't even leave en route to the farm until 8.38.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=263.0;attach=702;image

[mike tesko]

Thanks but that doesn't say who took it to bits and when.

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I cannot publish evidence that proves it was DI Cook (SOC) and that he did it on 29th August 1985, but you will either have to accept what I am saying about this, or wait until the matter comes to court, if it ever comes to court...

However, I think I am allowed to post a copy of a handwritten note, sent by COOK to the ballistics expert, on 30th August 1985, to Fletcher, which deals with these events, where Cook prompts Fletcher, along the lines that this is the Bamber rifle, which Cook has been speaking to him about...

In the meantime, please look at, and consider this - an Essex police record which confirms that by 9am, on 9th August 1985, police knew about the silencer in the gun cupboard:-

The time and date on that is 9 am on 7th August, and I'm not sure what it's referring to - surely not to the items listed - SOC weren't even on the scene at 9 am.

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They (DS Davidson) were there from about 8:25am, actually...

But DC Bird didn't even photograph the scene until much later - you said that yourself. How could the gun and bullet cartridges have been fingerprinted before that?

Are you suggesting that a silencer was found in the gun cupboard well before 9 am on 7th August?

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Gun, 25 cartridge cases, and silencer, were to be fingerprinted, collected from scene at 9am...

Correct...

Enter separate firearms team, to conduct a re-en-action of the earlier operation - gun was moved, bodies were moved, bullet cases were collected up, and removed by 9am - 9:22am...

The bigger picture is beginning to take shape now that you are asking the proper questions...

In my opinion...