How would you greet Julie Mugford on her return visit to England?

[Steve_uk]

Is the other letter on here as well?

Sorry I misunderstood if it was one and the same.

[Alias]

But the second letter is more guarded. It's interesting though to read normal handwriting as he must have written at Gresham's. The first letter is more incriminating as it doesn't profess innocence but does stress that his fate is in her hands. I wonder if he knew about the silencer evidence at this stage?

Steve - the first letter?

Anyway, why is he so soft with her?
Can he find it in his heart to hate her twenty eight years on, I wonder.

[Mr. Gee]

If it is from him its the first time I have seen his hand writing - not in capitals

Well that's one up the jaxy for the source demanders.

[Steve_uk]

Steve - the first letter?

Anyway, why is he so soft with her?
Can he find it in his heart to hate her twenty eight years on, I wonder.

I don't think he had much choice. A retracted statement by Julie would also open the prison gates.

[Mr. Gee]

I don't think he had much choice. A retracted statement by Julie would also open the prison gates.

Not true. He could have shown great anger against her for fitting him up. But he didn't.

[Steve_uk]

Not true. He could have shown great anger against her for fitting him up. But he didn't.

Julie was the only one he had confided his murder plans to. Maybe he had marked her out as special in some way.

[Mr. Gee]

Julie was the only one he had confided his murder plans to. Maybe he had marked her out as special in some way.

Allegedly. If that was so then he wouldn't be urging her to tell the truth.

[Jan]

I don't think he had much choice. A retracted statement by Julie would also open the prison gates.

Also every letter would be read .

TBH he was not angry with Colin in his first letters - but he did get angry later. I am not going to make assumptions  or excuses because they were not nice. He sounded at the end of his tether , that he felt he had been let down again.

[Mr. Gee]

Also every letter would be read .

TBH he was not angry with Colin in his first letters - but he did get angry later. I am not going to make assumptions  or excuses because they were not nice. He sounded at the end of his tether , that he felt he had been let down again.

If it were me who had been send to the slammer for something I didn't do I would probably be as mad as hell and planning every day on how to get out and get my revenge. Bamber has shown incredible restraint if you ask me.

[Alias]

Julie was the only one he had confided his murder plans to. Maybe he had marked her out as special in some way.

It strikes me that he speaks to her on equal terms. He puts her freedom up against his incarceration. Between the lines you can tell that he obviously has a problem with that.
I interpret it as: either they planned this together and are both guilty - or Jeremy had nothing to do with the murders, he is innocent, but Julie guilty of setting him up.

I just don´t understand his soft tone if he is innocent; but of course he could have been seething in his little cell trying to convince her to retract her (false) testimony.

I think I am pretty much left with the same feeling as when I read it the first time: they share something - and that is where my uneasy feeling sets in.

[lookout]

 I don't know about him being a violent murderer. I think he's soft in the head.

You can feel the pleas in the letter/s,but it's nothing to what I'd feel or write if I was in the same predicament. It would have been censored.

[Steve_uk]

Allegedly. If that was so then he wouldn't be urging her to tell the truth.

There was always a scintilla of doubt as Julie didn't want to face up to the fact that the man she loved was a mass murderer. She clung on to the slim hope that at least he had not pulled the trigger but that somehow Matthew Macdonald might have instigated the whole thing. But the terrifying truth slowly dawned on her and was confirmed at Blazer's restaurant,Blackheath, as Jeremy showed no remorse and told her not to blame herself,but he would have gone ahead with it anyway. Julie wanted their relationship to be as unsullied as it had been before the crimes,but this relationship had metastasised and there was no trust left,just the remnants of what once was as Julie took Jeremy's words that "maybe there is something wrong with me" to heart.

[Steve_uk]

It strikes me that he speaks to her on equal terms. He puts her freedom up against his incarceration. Between the lines you can tell that he obviously has a problem with that.
I interpret it as: either they planned this together and are both guilty - or Jeremy had nothing to do with the murders, he is innocent, but Julie guilty of setting him up.

I just don´t understand his soft tone if he is innocent; but of course he could have been seething in his little cell trying to convince her to retract her (false) testimony.

I think I am pretty much left with the same feeling as when I read it the first time: they share something - and that is where my uneasy feeling sets in.

Alias this is one of your best posts and many people would agree that there is something concealed in their relationship,which words possibly cannot express. I think Jeremy resented his parents for keeping him under their thumb,for adopting him then sending him away for eight years,for feeling an utter failure when in effect he was a hardworking young man who just wanted a job with less responsibilities. In Julie he found a confidante who would listen to him unreservedly,who would cook,iron,clean and decorate for him and rarely answer back. He opened up to her in a way he could never do with Suzette or his one night stands. She made him feel better and believe in himself. But I doubt Julie ever egged him on in anything,but was more of a doormat until it was too late,and she realized she was the one who had been badly let down.

[lookout]

Steve,I think she knows he didn't do it,and he didn't want to make too much of a fuss to draw attention otherwise he may have felt he'd be ignored altogether. Plus,I think he also knows that she knows he didn't do it as well,but was just living in hope that she would finally open up.

[Alias]

Thank you, Steve, that was kind.