Hi Lookout
This is true we do ALL carry genes from our birth parents.
I appreciate your personal views Lookout but I would respectfully point out that they do actually contradict all the evidence from professionals. Are you able to provide any evidence by way of links etc to support your assertions.
You often raise valid points but there appears to be a lack of supporting evidence ie links to witness statements, external websites etc. I recall once you liked some music Patti uploaded, Odyssey I think, and Patti said she was going to show you how to copy and paste etc?
Just going back to the genetics. How can you account for the following:
June - mental illness requiring in-patient psychiatric care 1959 and 1983 (might be '81)
Sheila - mental illness requiring in-patient psychiatric care 1983 and 1985
Jeremy - convicted of murdering 5 members of his adoptive family 1986
Lookout please can you give your opinion:
Genetics = n/a
Randomness/coincidence?
Environment?
First of all,,I don't refer to any information through links,,,it's purely lifes experiences coupled with my own views and not those of any" Doctor Spock "type gobbledegook.
As I've explained somewhere before,,,the pre-disposition to mental illness could well be already there,,,and any sort of trauma in your life will exacerbate that part of your brain,,as to whether you can control your feelings or suppress them altogether. It's all very complicated and in-depth that scientists haven't even worked out why some people act differently than others in a given situation.
Both Junes' and Sheilas' illnesses would have been hormonal,,,as an imbalance can and does cause all kinds of problems within the hormone producing glands in both men and women.
Pituitary,,,Adrenal,,,Thyroid,,,all produce hormones,,,the adrenal and thyroid give out the fight or flight hormone,,,and if these glands produce too much adrenaline and nor-adrenaline,left untreated,can go on to cause other problems round the body,,including the brain. Anxiety and depression are the two most common factors.
In women,during puberty,,those who suffer badly with PMT need to be treated asap,,as those sufferers have also been known to kill and their added strength can move mountains.
Junes' problen could have started from puberty,we don't know,,,but chances are,,she need not have been born to a family who suffered,,though it's usual on the maternal side for a daughter to inherit an ailment from the mother,,,but not always.
Sheila,we know,,was sexually active at 17, ( promiscuous I'd have said ) we've no information before then. When,in full view,she was caught by June,in the field with a farm worker. Inevitably pregnant,,,then whisked to the GP to make further arrangements. A further two terminations ,,,all added to a fragile mind of a young woman.Losing 3 pregnancies would be enough to make any young person " fall over the edge ",,,and whether Sheila ever had counselling after her " losses ",,I don't know.
Abortion isn't my idea of birth control. I find this part of Sheila difficult for me to understand.
To be quite honest,,,I would have said that having been in that situation alone,,,was enough to send her insane. She'd have wondered how those children would have turned out,etc etc,,,and part of her possibly had flashbacks. As life progressed,,she then got married and had a further pregnancy which resulted in the twins,,after having had to stay in hospital for a while beforehand.
There's no telling who can develop mental illness,,,except that it can be environmental,,,plus many other things combined,,drugs,alcohol,violence,abuse. It doesn't always show itself.People can be all smiles,but behind the smiles nobody can detect what's going on in the brain.
Jeremy is a different subject matter,,and so different. But that's not to say that his birth mother was different to Sheilas'. He is just a different character which you get in most blood-related families,as well as adoptive. My brother and myself both had the same parents,,but we're as different as chalk and cheese. As are both my daughters. They are individuals,,,not clones.
I have twin great/grandchildren who are also different in every way. Granted ,,they didn't share a " sac " ,,but even so,,when you say twins,,you expect mirror images,,,but no,,,,,,,,different pigmentations,,,,different characters altogether.
Jeremy on the other hand,,,because he must have been far easier to cope with,,,was probably revered a bit more than Sheila was,,and if Sheila had sensed this in any way,,there may have been ructions with her,,,but really,I think the Bambers did the best they could with both children. Probably better than some blood parents,,,as that's why I don't attach any importance to " adoption " because it's a part of natural life if you wish it to be so. Life is what you make it,,and not how someone else dictates it to be.
