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Offline susan

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #120 on: February 17, 2013, 12:37:PM »
Lookout maybe the police did not look but the relatives knew where these things were kept along with ammunition.  I have just stopped wondering ;D I become more confused daily.

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #121 on: February 17, 2013, 12:38:PM »
How dodgy is that?
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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #122 on: February 17, 2013, 01:03:PM »
We don't seem to know much detail about the contents of the gun cupboard, but presumably Jeremy knows more about what was kept there and where.

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« Reply #123 on: February 17, 2013, 01:09:PM »
We don't seem to know much detail about the contents of the gun cupboard, but presumably Jeremy knows more about what was kept there and where.
Am I right in thinking the silencer had only been bought quite recently and if so what happened to the silencer it replaced? or did they not bother with a silencer before they purchased this one?

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #124 on: February 17, 2013, 01:12:PM »
Not only that / this...

But just imagine, if it was the same silencer found by Boutflour on 10th August 1985, sent to the lab' on 13th August 1985, (SBJ/1 - lab' item number 22), and or sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985. (DB/1 - lab' item number 23), it still does not explain why Essex police still had possession of another silencer by 13th September 1985, so that DS Eastwood, and DS Davidson, could fingerprint it on 13th September 1985, or why Essex police should then be in possession of the silencer (DRB/1) to enable them to send it to the lab' on 25th September 1985, to be checked for blood and fibres?

You can't send a silencer to the lab' to be checked for blood and fibres on 25th September 1985, if that same silencer has already been sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985, albeit under a deifferent exhibit reference (DB/1 - lab' item number 23), and then rely upon the blood group results obtained from the examination of it afterwards - and by the time the case comes to trial (October 1986) it is being referred to by a completely different exhibt reference (DRB/1 - lab' item number 22)?

How the hell could a jury, or a court of law, allow such evidence to be used by the prosecution, to help convict Jeremy Bamber for these murders...

It's a scandal, and brings the Criminal Justice system into disrepute - it portrays the legal system as corrupted, and all those who work and operate under its badge as criminals ( or as I might say, scumbags)...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #125 on: February 17, 2013, 01:18:PM »
We don't seem to know much detail about the contents of the gun cupboard, but presumably Jeremy knows more about what was kept there and where.

I assume you mean the 'usual' contents of the cupboard and their location?  :-\

It seems clear that the 'usual' place for the sound moderator and nikko sight to be, was attached to the rifle.

Out of curiosity, what details would you have liked to know? Presumably not the colour of the dart board.

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« Reply #126 on: February 17, 2013, 01:19:PM »
Am I right in thinking the silencer had only been bought quite recently and if so what happened to the silencer it replaced? or did they not bother with a silencer before they purchased this one?

The rifle and the sound moderator were purchased at the same time.

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #127 on: February 17, 2013, 01:22:PM »
The rifle and the sound moderator were purchased at the same time.
Oh of course Hartley, I remember now ;D

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« Reply #128 on: February 17, 2013, 01:23:PM »
Oh of course Hartley, I remember now ;D
They were purchased on 24th November 1984.

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #129 on: February 17, 2013, 01:30:PM »
David Boutflour did not report the finding of silencer in the cupboard at whf, until 11th September 1985, how is it possible for the same silencer to be submitted to the lab' on 13th August 1985, 30th August 1985, and 25th Seprtember 1985?
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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #130 on: February 17, 2013, 01:33:PM »
David Boutflour did not report the finding of silencer in the cupboard at whf, until 11th September 1985, how is it possible for the same silencer to be submitted to the lab' on 13th August 1985, 30th August 1985, and 25th Seprtember 1985?

Essex police, the DPP, CPS, CCRC and all those who think Bamber is  guilty, based on the silencer, paint and blood evidence obtained from it, are basically takingt the PISS...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #131 on: February 17, 2013, 01:34:PM »
Essex police, the DPP, CPS, CCRC and all those who think Bamber is  guilty, based on the silencer, paint and blood evidence obtained from it, are basically takingt the PISS...

Every one of you is a WANKER, who is talking complete and utter garbage - you are all fucking idiots...
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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #132 on: February 17, 2013, 01:42:PM »
Every one of you is a WANKER, who is talking complete and utter garbage - you are all fucking idiots...


Awww,aye,Mike. I do my best, and also appreciate what you've done and still do.

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #133 on: February 17, 2013, 01:52:PM »
For Mikes own sake, is there any chance a mod can tidy up his couple of posts above?   :P

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Re: The Big Lie - about use of sound moderator on barrel of family rifle...
« Reply #134 on: February 17, 2013, 01:55:PM »
They were purchased on 24th November 1984.
So the Bambers didn't have a .22 sporting rifle before that date?