Why the murders didnt take place around 3.30am

[Lugg]

Do you mean the twilight zone? I remember that!

Thats right. I thought it sounded wrong when I wrote it.

[lookout]

I agree, I think some people get all their information from Hammer House of Horror.

Not so,Bridget,,,I'm afraid. I don't need to watch horror films.

[Steve_uk]

NB was in the kitchen when attacked and shot. so he wasnt in bed at that time in a morning even though he had been working in the field till late and as a farmer would no doubt be up early the next morning.
 
JB was in the bedroom but not asleep as she was able to 'rush' at the murderer , again was she not asleep at 3.30 in the morning ?...
 
SC was mostly likely asleep and wasnt distubed by the murderer and therefore was shot in her sleep

Which case is this you're portraying;I must have missed it..

[lookout]

Which case is this you're portraying;I must have missed it..

Yes,,,well,,,considering that June was the " bloodiest " it would make you wonder which of the two women had the upper hand.? I'd be flat out too if I'd ran up and down stairs shooting frenziedly. The visual sign/s of death depends on how active or not they were before their deaths,,,and because June was fairly saturated with blood,it would have appeared that she was the active one in the situation. 

[Steve_uk]

Yes,,,well,,,considering that June was the " bloodiest " it would make you wonder which of the two women had the upper hand.? I'd be flat out too if I'd ran up and down stairs shooting frenziedly. The visual sign/s of death depends on how active or not they were before their deaths,,,and because June was fairly saturated with blood,it would have appeared that she was the active one in the situation.

She was shot in bed first according to mike's evidence,whereupon she did manage to work her way to the end of the bed. When Jeremy reloaded and came back upstairs he found her in this position and shot her fatally between the eyes.

[packagebuilder]

Yes,,,well,,,considering that June was the " bloodiest " it would make you wonder which of the two women had the upper hand.? I'd be flat out too if I'd ran up and down stairs shooting frenziedly. The visual sign/s of death depends on how active or not they were before their deaths,,,and because June was fairly saturated with blood,it would have appeared that she was the active one in the situation.

I too pick up on that!! unless June was fatally shot sometime been the children or navil?

[HMEssex]

Yes,,,well,,,considering that June was the " bloodiest " it would make you wonder which of the two women had the upper hand.? I'd be flat out too if I'd ran up and down stairs shooting frenziedly. The visual sign/s of death depends on how active or not they were before their deaths,,,and because June was fairly saturated with blood,it would have appeared that she was the active one in the situation.

I understand what you mean.

However, both June and Nevill were heavily wounded and bloodied before their deaths, whereas Sheila was not.  For some reason, Sheila escaped the bloodbath. So, why would the parents be the only two of the three adults in the house to be so badly wounded, unless the killer was, indeed, Sheila?

[lookout]

I understand what you mean.

However, both June and Nevill were heavily wounded and bloodied before their deaths, whereas Sheila was not.  For some reason, Sheila escaped the bloodbath. So, why would the parents be the only two of the three adults in the house to be so badly wounded, unless the killer was, indeed, Sheila?

Yes,,indeed you would be right in your deductions HMEssex.

[Alias]

I understand what you mean.

However, both June and Nevill were heavily wounded and bloodied before their deaths, whereas Sheila was not.  For some reason, Sheila escaped the bloodbath. So, why would the parents be the only two of the three adults in the house to be so badly wounded, unless the killer was, indeed, Sheila?

It is very remarkable how different the deaths and appearences of the deceiced adults were.

[lookout]

It is very remarkable how different the deaths and appearences of the deceiced adults were.

You see,,if Sheila had been fiercely protecting her boys from " someone else ",,she'd have shown far more injuries than she did.

[maggie]

You see,,if Sheila had been fiercely protecting her boys from " someone else ",,she'd have shown far more injuries than she did.

I agree it must have been the other Jones.
It is true lookout, Sheila would have defended her children to the end if she was aware that they were under attack.  So either, she was unaware, as steve has suggested but how could she have been in the bedroom with June and be unaware of the twins being or having been killed?  Surely she would have run to her boys when the attack on June happened? She had access through the other door and it's apparent that no one tried to stop her.  She couldn't possibly have been killed before June in that room so other than Sheila shooting herself what other explanation is there?

[Steve_uk]

I agree it must have been the other Jones.
It is true lookout, Sheila would have defended her children to the end if she was aware that they were under attack.  So either, she was unaware, as steve has suggested but how could she have been in the bedroom with June and be unaware of the twins being or having been killed?  Surely she would have run to her boys when the attack on June happened? She had access through the other door and it's apparent that no one tried to stop her.  She couldn't possibly have been killed before June in that room so other than Sheila shooting herself what other explanation is there?

Jeremy takes a dozy Sheila by the hand from her room under the pretext of taking a bible class with June. Upon entry to the master bedroom and before Sheila has time to spot a dead June Jeremy discharges a bullet into Sheila's neck which stuns her but does not kill. This is why Jeremy had to shoot her a second time and just had to hope she bled to death before the Police stormed the Farm.

[Alias]

Another strange factor is the location of Sheila´s body (somewhat unrelated to what we are talking about here.)
Why would Jeremy place her in June and Nevill´s bedroom on the floor, why not in her room, why not in the twins´? If he wanted to stage a believable suicide, why on earth choose that bedroom? Makes no sense, not as if it had been planned to look like a suicide.
You can say the same for Sheila, why did she choose that spot (I realize others think she died elsewhere - I don´t).
I have some thoughts on that, but I will refrain from wild speculations!

[lookout]

I agree it must have been the other Jones.
It is true lookout, Sheila would have defended her children to the end if she was aware that they were under attack.  So either, she was unaware, as steve has suggested but how could she have been in the bedroom with June and be unaware of the twins being or having been killed?  Surely she would have run to her boys when the attack on June happened? She had access through the other door and it's apparent that no one tried to stop her.  She couldn't possibly have been killed before June in that room so other than Sheila shooting herself what other explanation is there?

Maggie,,,there is no other explanation at all. Neville,big as he was would have flattened Jeremy if it had been him,,but because Sheilas' build was deceptive,,I can bet that her father would have been baffled by her sudden strength,,then getting hold of the rifle,,he'd have felt utterly powerless. It must have been horrendous and so frightening to have felt unreal.

[mertol22]

Jeremy takes a dozy Sheila by the hand from her room under the pretext of taking a bible class with June. Upon entry to the master bedroom and before Sheila has time to spot a dead June Jeremy discharges a bullet into Sheila's neck which stuns her but does not kill. This is why Jeremy had to shoot her a second time and just had to hope she bled to death before the Police stormed the Farm.

How could you [ hope }  that death would follow ?