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Offline grahameb

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #180 on: October 27, 2013, 12:14:PM »
NN I am not getting involved in all of this and wont be taking sides either.  I like to debate and be friendly to everyone.  What others post is of no concern to me and I rarely complain unless I have a valid reason too.  I am on no ones side....sorry.  :) :) :) :)
Patti you have the good unbiased make-up of a great moderator. Keep on that track. Even though some may call you biased just because you do not hold their view of things. It is a pity that you are not still a mod.  :)
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #181 on: October 27, 2013, 12:20:PM »
Information, documentation, and photographs which were originally present upon various hard drives from 2003 / 2004, on / in computers owned and used by myself, were transferred onto a portable device currently in my possession, before the hard drives in question were physically removed from the shells / casings of each of those computers...

Photograph of portable device produced:- (Image of relevant device temporarily suspended)...

Hi everyone

I have now photographed the portable device, bar code and serial numbers on the device, upon which the relevant material, documentation, emails, letters and photographs have been / were transferred from other versions of hard drives from previous computers, owned and used by myself - I will be posting images of the device in question very soon, before I start to upload material contained upon it...

Please be patient...
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« Reply #182 on: October 27, 2013, 12:37:PM »
However,,reading about interviewing suspects and their behaviour under interrogation is quite interesting,,and unless Jeremy is a raving psychopath,,then he's clearly innocent.
As according to the interviews,,those who are innocent feel confident that an investigation will clear them ( as in Jeremys' case,though it didn't unfortunately happen ) Also Jeremys' answers were direct without being evasive.
A guilty person will try and divert the interviewer from the questions in hand. So far as we know,,Jeremy answered all questions put to him,,arrogantly,,so we're told,,,but arrogance is usually confidence.
Use of some words during interrogation can be an indicator of guilt or innocence. If the word ( pronoun ) " I " is used,as opposed to " the " and " it ",,then usually a suspect is guilty. The other words are an indication that he isn't taking ownership. In other words---------innocent.

It's quite clear to me that psychology wasn't used in the interviewing/interrogation of Jeremy.

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« Reply #183 on: October 27, 2013, 12:42:PM »
Hi everyone

I have now photographed the portable device, bar code and serial numbers on the device, upon which the relevant material, documentation, emails, letters and photographs have been / were transferred from other versions of hard drives from previous computers, owned and used by myself - I will be posting images of the device in question very soon, before I start to upload material contained upon it...

Please be patient...





Oh Mike,,that is a long and tedious task that you've set yourself. Well done to you,,as it shows your unending loyalty to see this case through.

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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #184 on: October 27, 2013, 12:50:PM »



I did not say that,,NN. You did.

My humble apologies Lookout I incorrectly interpreted your post #173  ::)

 

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« Reply #185 on: October 27, 2013, 12:52:PM »
Who keeps removing my posts? 

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« Reply #186 on: October 27, 2013, 01:01:PM »
However,,reading about interviewing suspects and their behaviour under interrogation is quite interesting,,and unless Jeremy is a raving psychopath,,then he's clearly innocent.
As according to the interviews,,those who are innocent feel confident that an investigation will clear them ( as in Jeremys' case,though it didn't unfortunately happen ) Also Jeremys' answers were direct without being evasive.
A guilty person will try and divert the interviewer from the questions in hand. So far as we know,,Jeremy answered all questions put to him,,arrogantly,,so we're told,,,but arrogance is usually confidence.
Use of some words during interrogation can be an indicator of guilt or innocence. If the word ( pronoun ) " I " is used,as opposed to " the " and " it ",,then usually a suspect is guilty. The other words are an indication that he isn't taking ownership. In other words---------innocent.

It's quite clear to me that psychology wasn't used in the interviewing/interrogation of Jeremy.
I'm afraid that gives a false picture of the interrogation process lookout and I advise members to read the documents again,especially those conducted on 10 and 11 September 1985. Let us put ourselves in Jeremy's shoes and for convenience's sake imagine that you are the innocent victim for one moment. You have lost five members of your family:wouldn't this be the point you would be incessantly repeating,along with trying to make them believe in a desperate telephone call from your father who may have known his life was coming to an end? Anyone would go to desperate lengths to talk on any subject broached by Police in an attempt to clear ones name,instead of many hours of cat and mouse with Jeremy using every stalling tactic in the book including refreshment and toilet breaks when he was not picking threads deliberately from his white Arran jumper.
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #187 on: October 27, 2013, 01:15:PM »
Hi everyone

I have now photographed the portable device, bar code and serial numbers on the device, upon which the relevant material, documentation, emails, letters and photographs have been / were transferred from other versions of hard drives from previous computers, owned and used by myself - I will be posting images of the device in question very soon, before I start to upload material contained upon it...

Please be patient...

This must be the longest, most drawn out transfer of computer files in history.
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #188 on: October 27, 2013, 01:16:PM »
I'm afraid that gives a false picture of the interrogation process lookout and I advise members to read the documents again,especially those conducted on 10 and 11 September 1985. Let us put ourselves in Jeremy's shoes and for convenience's sake imagine that you are the innocent victim for one moment. You have lost five members of your family:wouldn't this be the point you would be incessantly repeating,along with trying to make them believe in a desperate telephone call from your father who may have known his life was coming to an end? Anyone would go to desperate lengths to talk on any subject broached by Police in an attempt to clear ones name,instead of many hours of cat and mouse with Jeremy using every stalling tactic in the book including refreshment and toilet breaks when he was not picking threads deliberately from his white Arran jumper.

Absolutely. Completely agree.
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Re: I have managed to retrieve some documents, from my 2004 drive...
« Reply #189 on: October 27, 2013, 01:16:PM »
I'm afraid that gives a false picture of the interrogation process lookout and I advise members to read the documents again,especially those conducted on 10 and 11 September 1985. Let us put ourselves in Jeremy's shoes and for convenience's sake imagine that you are the innocent victim for one moment. You have lost five members of your family:wouldn't this be the point you would be incessantly repeating,along with trying to make them believe in a desperate telephone call from your father who may have known his life was coming to an end? Anyone would go to desperate lengths to talk on any subject broached by Police in an attempt to clear ones name,instead of many hours of cat and mouse with Jeremy using every stalling tactic in the book including refreshment and toilet breaks when he was not picking threads deliberately from his white Arran jumper.





Jeremy was obviously bored and fed up hearing the same questions over and over,,a tactic used until the suspect cracks,,but because a confession was nowhere near coming forthwith,,I'd say it was when things started to heat up with the police. I'd love to hear those interview tapes and how Jeremy was interviewed. I bet the police didn't use their usual protocol,,as it's clear that nobody liked the man,,so it didn't sound to me as though the police were trying to build some kind of a rapport with him,,as is the key in interviewing a suspect,,so that Jeremy would have immediately felt defensive.   

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« Reply #190 on: October 27, 2013, 01:18:PM »




Oh Mike,,that is a long and tedious task that you've set yourself. Well done to you,,as it shows your unending loyalty to see this case through.

Nope, it's someone backed into a corner, stalling for time. This could have been done in hours, years ago.
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« Reply #191 on: October 27, 2013, 01:21:PM »
I'm afraid that gives a false picture of the interrogation process lookout and I advise members to read the documents again,especially those conducted on 10 and 11 September 1985. Let us put ourselves in Jeremy's shoes and for convenience's sake imagine that you are the innocent victim for one moment. You have lost five members of your family:wouldn't this be the point you would be incessantly repeating,along with trying to make them believe in a desperate telephone call from your father who may have known his life was coming to an end? Anyone would go to desperate lengths to talk on any subject broached by Police in an attempt to clear ones name,instead of many hours of cat and mouse with Jeremy using every stalling tactic in the book including refreshment and toilet breaks when he was not picking threads deliberately from his white Arran jumper.

Having never been in that situation, I don't know what I would do BUT I'd be pretty hacked off knowing that the police, members of my family and an ex were trying to pin it on me!!

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« Reply #192 on: October 27, 2013, 01:26:PM »
Why do you think that all physical evidence in the case was destroyed in 1996?

It's a disgrace really. Works both ways though. Might have further proved his guilt.
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« Reply #193 on: October 27, 2013, 01:34:PM »
Nope, it's someone backed into a corner, stalling for time. This could have been done in hours, years ago.




Ye Gods Vic,,how long do you think it takes sifting through years of condensed information on a hard drive.? Not one hard drive,,but a few.

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« Reply #194 on: October 27, 2013, 01:37:PM »
It's a disgrace really. Works both ways though. Might have further proved his guilt.




Don't fret,Vic,,if anything that was destroyed proved Jeremys' guilt,,,,it wouldn't have been destroyed,would it.? Just logig really.