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Offline lookout

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2013, 12:50:PM »
Yes it it all subjective really isn't it?


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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2013, 12:57:PM »
According to NB's phone call to JB
 
"she's got 'the' gun"  implies a definite article , as if to suggest there was only one gun in the house.... 'the' gun and not 'a' gun
 
multiple items would need to be separated.


Please come quickly, Sheila has gone crazy and has got the gun.


Hi BG, it’s interesting (to me anyway) when you deconstruct the sentence given by JB, as allegedly used by Nevill.

Please – why use this word when the situation is so urgent.

Jeremy, come quickly.......... would have been more to the point - imo

Quickly... JB implied his Dad was desperate.... and of course JB did not react “quickly”. 

Crazy... the word crazy supports JB's planned attempt to direct blame on his schizophrenic sister.

And has got “the” gun – ah! THE  gun - THE one conveniently left out in JB’s story.

A direct attempt by JB to connect the gun he left out with the gun Sheila was allegedly using, and the gun that Nevill knew to refer to  - oops!

In JB’s mind, when constructing the sentence, it was THE gun, as that is how he perceived the made up scenario.

JB knew which gun he had used and wanted to connect it to the story of the gun left on the settle, the fake phone call from Nevill, and Sheila!

A slip up by JB.

And then the convenient.... "and then the phone went dead".

These elements to me show a staged approach!

And that, amongst other things, leads me to believe the phone call never happened ;)


Reality Check - What evidence is there to free JB? Answers on a very small postcard!

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2013, 12:57:PM »
I don't know, maybe you should ask them.  :-\

A guilty Jeremy is not a reliable source of information, so it's hardly surprising that people find his uncorroborated claims to be questionable. Like the rabbits for example.

Senior moment should say guilty....where did the (not) come from  :-\ :-\ 

I'm busy baking...lol

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2013, 01:01:PM »
Senior moment should say guilty....where did the (not) come from  :-\ :-\ 

I'm busy baking...lol

I know, but it doesn't happen often so I took the opportunity to mock.  ;)

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2013, 01:01:PM »

Please come quickly, Sheila has gone crazy and has got the gun.


Hi BG, it’s interesting (to me anyway) when you deconstruct the sentence given by JB, as allegedly used by Nevill.

Please – why use this word when the situation is so urgent.

Jeremy, come quickly.......... would have been more to the point - imo

Quickly... JB implied his Dad was desperate.... and of course JB did not react “quickly”. 

Crazy... the word crazy supports JB's planned attempt to direct blame on his schizophrenic sister.

And has got “the” gun – ah! THE  gun - THE one conveniently left out in JB’s story.

A direct attempt by JB to connect the gun he left out with the gun Sheila was allegedly using, and the gun that Nevill knew to refer to  - oops!

In JB’s mind, when constructing the sentence, it was THE gun, as that is how he perceived the made up scenario.

JB knew which gun he had used and wanted to connect it to the story of the gun left on the settle, the fake phone call from Nevill, and Sheila!

A slip up by JB.

And then the convenient.... "and then the phone went dead".

These elements to me show a staged approach!

And that, amongst other things, leads me to believe the phone call never happened ;)
Why say anything at all? No one would have been any the wiser. My advice to anyone unlucky enough to be pulled in by the cops for questioning is to say nothing. Milton Jones advice is to every now and then during the interview punch your fist into your hand and say, "Ouch!". ;)

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2013, 01:05:PM »
Why say anything at all? No one would have been any the wiser. My advice to anyone unlucky enough to be pulled in by the cops for questioning is to say nothing. Milton Jones advice is to every now and then during the interview punch your fist into your hand and say, "Ouch!". ;)

 
precisely.... he should have just gone to bed after the murders and the murder scene been found in another way
he hadnt quite got his script correct.

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2013, 01:08:PM »
I know, but it doesn't happen often so I took the opportunity to mock.  ;)

Hartley  :) 

Can I ask you a question? 

Lets say that the WHF murders were never solved at all. Jeremy was not found guilty of any crime and, it is left at a murder suicide. 

Looking at all the evidence in a Sherlock kinda way...with all suspects available... Who committed the crime.......Please can we eliminate the silencer for the time being, also Juile M!  :( ;)

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2013, 01:09:PM »
Why say anything at all? No one would have been any the wiser. My advice to anyone unlucky enough to be pulled in by the cops for questioning is to say nothing. Milton Jones advice is to every now and then during the interview punch your fist into your hand and say, "Ouch!". ;)

Oh Lugg - you know why, and it's partly what got him convicted - it was all part of the plan to blame Sheila.

In summary;

I went outside to shoot some rabbits

I left the gun lying around.

I got a phone call from my father saying Sheila had now got the gun (that I left lying around).

He said come quickly - I didn’t.

He said Sheila had the gun – so it must have been the one I left lying around.

Staged or what!
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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2013, 01:17:PM »
According to NB's phone call to JB
 
"she's got 'the' gun"  implies a definite article , as if to suggest there was only one gun in the house.... 'the' gun and not 'a' gun
 
multiple items would need to be separated.

Why have you put SHE?  It is so easy to make a mistake, even though you know you should have said Sheila...

I have often wondered it Jeremy made the same mistake....and interpreted She for Sheila..Its easily done.... :) :) :) :)

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2013, 01:20:PM »


May I just add to that by suggesting so WHAT if a loaded gun was left where he could lay his hands on it. It's more than possible that Nevill MAY have locked it away............unless of course Jeremy is using telepathic communication to prevent it :D :D

Good point April, he couldn't know that it wouldn't be put back. And if he didn't leave it out in the first place, he left himself open to being discovered before he had a chance to get to it. Unless of course he hid it in an easily accessible place - but again, he couldn't be sure it wouldn't be found and a hidden rifle would certainly arouse suspicion!!  ;)

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2013, 01:21:PM »
Hartley  :) 

Can I ask you a question? 

Lets say that the WHF murders were never solved at all. Jeremy was not found guilty of any crime and, it is left at a murder suicide. 

Looking at all the evidence in a Sherlock kinda way...with all suspects available... Who committed the crime.......Please can we eliminate the silencer for the time being, also Juile M!  :( ;)

Either Sheila, or Jeremy was responsible, the alledged phone call from Nevill indicates that to be the case.
Once Sheila is ruled out, that leaves Jeremy.

I don't really know what you are asking me?  :-\

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2013, 01:22:PM »
Why have you put SHE?  It is so easy to make a mistake, even though you know you should have said Sheila...

I have often wondered it Jeremy made the same mistake....and interpreted She for Sheila..Its easily done.... :) :) :) :)


Or maybe her family shortened Sheila to Shee.

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2013, 01:22:PM »
Either Sheila, or Jeremy was responsible, the alledged phone call from Nevill indicates that to be the case.
Once Sheila is ruled out, that leaves Jeremy.

I don't really know what you are asking me?  :-\

cos you're the only one about.....OK! Wont ask no more daft questions dear.  :'(

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2013, 01:23:PM »
Why have you put SHE?  It is so easy to make a mistake, even though you know you should have said Sheila...

I have often wondered it Jeremy made the same mistake....and interpreted She for Sheila..Its easily done.... :) :) :) :)

 
Suggesting that AB was the 'she' ?  its possible , perhaps her body had the marks of a struggle consistent with a fight with NB , but then then someone would have had to kill AB after she killed NB. Then who killed the twins ?
 
is it possible for a family to have such killers ?

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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2013, 01:24:PM »

Or maybe her family shortened Sheila to Shee.

There's a good point...not even thought of that one all my self  :o :) :) :) :)