The case of Madeleine McCann

[Cambridgecutie]

I can't possibly know, and neither can you, so don't be so arrogant as to write #6320.

It is not arrogant to assert something that ticks all the boxes.

[Cambridgecutie]

She probably thinks that tramp juice is a status symbol. Its gold says special on it and costs 30p more than the regular. Her thought process was probably something like this -

"I was reaching for a Peroni — because I have standards — and my elbow caught the shelf. The can that fell into my basket was green and gold and looked, honestly, looked European. Continental. The sort of thing a woman named Dominique might drink on a terrace in Monaco before her second yacht party.

I want to be absolutely clear about something: I am not unemployed. I am between opportunities. There's a difference, and that difference is mostly that I've been between them for fourteen years and have started referring to my JobCentre advisor by his first name. His name is Derek, and he does not appreciate being called "Dezza."

I now buy special brews in four-packs and arrange them in my fridge like they're something I'd offer to a guest. I have not had a guest in some time but the arrangement matters. The aesthetic. I read somewhere that rich people care about presentation, so I put one can on a little wooden chopping board — a charcuterie-adjacent situation — with some Ritz crackers and a bit of cathedral cheddar I bought on reduced because it was Thursday."

Is this something you conjured up in your bedroom at your parents?

[Steve_uk]

It is not arrogant to assert something that ticks all the boxes.

They had a reason to visit the Algarve, namely to visit their aunt. They were staying in Quarteira, which to my knowledge is a heavily built-up area, not conducive to kidnapping children, if that is your predilection. I'm sure there are numerous remote country houses to rent in Portugal far more suitable for the purpose, as Christian Brückner deduced.

[Cambridgecutie]

They had a reason to visit the Algarve, namely to visit their aunt. They were staying in Quarteira, which to my knowledge is a heavily built-up area, not conducive to kidnapping children, if that is your predilection. I'm sure there are numerous remote country houses to rent in Portugal far more suitable for the purpose, as Christian Brückner deduced.

As I said I would suggest you reread her WS to determine the reason for visiting the Algarve and note the contradiction.  See if you can.  I am going to tend to my garden and will be back later to mark you out of 10. 

[Jonathan]

Wrong. 

The Tranmers had a hire car, the McCanns did not.

so you're theory is that they used the hire car to take the body away and dispose of it?

[snow66!]

You will be waiting a long time to see Wolters evidence.  When the story first broke, around June 2019 from memory, I was posting on Red.  I said it will never go anywhere.  Everyone said its sour grapes because its not your theory. 

CB will never be charged in relation to MM unless he is fitted up and I do think he has a very good lawyer.

So you had decided the Tranmers were guilty before Breuckner became a suspect then, Cutie!

[snow66!]

But no one can possibly know the motive.  I suppose I like to think they were a misguided childless couple who thought MM was being neglected and they could give her a better life.  But that's probably wishful thinking on my part because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.  The alternative is they were a deviant couple who had some perverted interest in small children eg sadistic, sexual etc. 

It could be they were some high minded couple who wanted to teach the McCanns a lesson for leaving their children and planned to return MM the following day but with all the media attention felt unable to do so.  If you refer to CAT's WS she claims they were staying in Quarteira.  This is 55 miles away from PDL.  She claimed the journey took around 2 hours.  I would have thought half this time.  Anyway they were staying in Quarteira to look for property to purchase and visited PF on the Sunday and again on the Thursday.  But she added we passed through on Friday but did not visit any estate agents.  To my mind this needs explaining.  Were they actually in PDL on the Friday or not?  Was this said to prempt the idea they left PDL around the time MM disappeared never to return?  It is at odds with her claim they were staying in Quarteria to purchase property in that area.  If they were also considering PDL then why not combine looking at properties with a trip to PF?  Or why not stay overnight with PF and then spend the day looking?  Why did they not call in on PF again?  She claims she first became aware of MM's disappearance when she returned to the UK and read The Times on Sunday.  Did she not notice the police presence in PDL on Fri?  Did they really not hear/see anything on the Fri and Sat? 

I think if you are prepared to abduct a child to raise as your own the acquiring of legal paperwork would not be uppermost in your mind!

Maybe she did not take one of the twins as she herself is a twin.

We have no idea of their backgrounds/lifestyle.  We do not understand the relationship and power dynamic between the Tranmers.  Is it balanced or is one more dominant?   

We have no idea of any emotional/psychological/mental illness issues/personality disorder. 

We have no idea of any loss: untimely death of a child, adoption, abortion, miscarriage.

No one should take any of the police investigations seriously when PF was not even interviewed until 20th Aug!  FFS.  I would like to think if I was the lead investigator I would be like a rat up a drainpipe knocking on the door immediately.  Then I would be straight on to the Tranmers.  PF was potentially the most important witness.  She was a permanent resident who lived directly above 5A.

There was a loss, wasn't it mrs Tranmers brother who died?

[snow66!]

She probably thinks that tramp juice is a status symbol. Its gold says special on it and costs 30p more than the regular. Her thought process was probably something like this -

"I was reaching for a Peroni — because I have standards — and my elbow caught the shelf. The can that fell into my basket was green and gold and looked, honestly, looked European. Continental. The sort of thing a woman named Dominique might drink on a terrace in Monaco before her second yacht party.

I want to be absolutely clear about something: I am not unemployed. I am between opportunities. There's a difference, and that difference is mostly that I've been between them for fourteen years and have started referring to my JobCentre advisor by his first name. His name is Derek, and he does not appreciate being called "Dezza."

I now buy special brews in four-packs and arrange them in my fridge like they're something I'd offer to a guest. I have not had a guest in some time but the arrangement matters. The aesthetic. I read somewhere that rich people care about presentation, so I put one can on a little wooden chopping board — a charcuterie-adjacent situation — with some Ritz crackers and a bit of cathedral cheddar I bought on reduced because it was Thursday."

Ha ha! Well alcohol consumption has to be controlled, Dave! Like a lot of people I liked it just a little bit too much so had to stop altogether.
And yes in my heyday I had a big drink problem,  I couldn't get enough of it!!! Oh well, the old one's are always the best!

[snow66!]

the Tranmers theory has the same weakness as the McCanns. What was done with the body?

I considered the possibility that if the McCanns were guilty that they somehow managed to transport Maddie back to England for a christian burial!

[Cambridgecutie]

so you're theory is that they used the hire car to take the body away and dispose of it?

No.  They had a hire car to get about the Algarve during their holiday and used it to abduct MM.  I have no idea whether or not they physically harmed MM.   

[Cambridgecutie]

So you had decided the Tranmers were guilty before Breuckner became a suspect then, Cutie!

Yes.  I was a mod on the Red forum.  My contribution was limited to the JB board.  As a mod I was always receiving pm's from Admin about the MM board so I decided to take a look.  It was a very busy board.  Lots of hot debates!  Mainly 2 camps: McCanns innocent v guilty.  I knew very little about the case other than what I heard and read in the media at the time so thought I would take a look.  Read through the PJ files, KM's book, etc, etc.  I quickly formed the opinion it was someone who knew MM was alone in the unlocked apartment 5A.  This narrowed it down to a very small pool.  I then narrowed it down further to the Tranmers.  This was during the summer 2019.  The announcement about CB came about a year later. 

Here's one of my first posts on Red:

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10827.0

[Cambridgecutie]

Yes.  I was a mod on the Red forum.  My contribution was limited to the JB board.  As a mod I was always receiving pm's from Admin about the MM board so I decided to take a look.  It was a very busy board.  Lots of hot debates!  Mainly 2 camps: McCanns innocent v guilty.  I knew very little about the case other than what I heard and read in the media at the time so thought I would take a look.  Read through the PJ files, KM's book, etc, etc.  I quickly formed the opinion it was someone who knew MM was alone in the unlocked apartment 5A.  This narrowed it down to a very small pool.  I then narrowed it down further to the Tranmers.  This was during the summer 2019.  The announcement about CB came about a year later. 

Here's one of my first posts on Red:

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10827.0

Its a very simple case if you can filter out all the noise.

[Cambridgecutie]

There was a loss, wasn't it mrs Tranmers brother who died?

Well according to the WS her twin brother died during 2003.  In fact she said there were 4 deaths in her family that year. 

[snow66!]

Yes.  I was a mod on the Red forum.  My contribution was limited to the JB board.  As a mod I was always receiving pm's from Admin about the MM board so I decided to take a look.  It was a very busy board.  Lots of hot debates!  Mainly 2 camps: McCanns innocent v guilty.  I knew very little about the case other than what I heard and read in the media at the time so thought I would take a look.  Read through the PJ files, KM's book, etc, etc.  I quickly formed the opinion it was someone who knew MM was alone in the unlocked apartment 5A.  This narrowed it down to a very small pool.  I then narrowed it down further to the Tranmers.  This was during the summer 2019.  The announcement about CB came about a year later. 

Here's one of my first posts on Red:

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10827.0

OK, read the first few pages of your Red posts, Cutie! So the same questions were asked about you're theory there too, but no one really trashed it?
So what now? How can you take you're theory any further forward at this stage?

[David1819]

Ha ha! Well alcohol consumption has to be controlled, Dave! Like a lot of people I liked it just a little bit too much so had to stop altogether.
And yes in my heyday I had a big drink problem,  I couldn't get enough of it!!! Oh well, the old one's are always the best!

Well done for stopping.