The case of Madeleine McCann

[David1819]

Thanks, Steve!
So there is evidence against Breuckner then, but mean time its inadmissible!

There is a lot of evidence against Breuckner. However the German legal system is very different to ours. If he was in the UK he would easily be prosecuted.

"German criminal proceedings are by nature not a contest between parties, but an objective, judge-led inquiry into the material truth of the facts underlying a criminal charge. Equality of arms is not a principle that would apply to a similar extent as it does in adversarial systems. From the German point of view, the prosecution, on the one hand, has no individual rights of a fair trial; it has powers and duties, with the consequence that the prosecution cannot argue a violation of the right to equality of arms because the system is not adversarial, but the court itself is under a duty to find the truth. - MICHAEL BOHLANDER, PRINCIPLES OF GERMAN CRIMINAL LAW, "

Or as someone else put it -

"The German criminal justice System is a so called inquisitorial’ one whereas that of
England and Wales is categorised as ‘adversarial’. Whilst the German Prosecution
service is expected to be the ‘most objective authority in the world’ and to operate
both in favour and against the defendant, the Crown Prosecution Service’s (CPS)
role is to promulgate the suspect’s blameworthiness."

[David1819]

I'm surprised that those wanting to get CB to face the music in the UK haven't jumped on this.
Of all the possible suspects CB is the closest fit to CAT's description.

I know.

[Cambridgecutie]

Remember he was a burglar as well as a paedophile. He may have been looking for valuables, passports, anything he could flog to sustain his lifestyle, and came across the children by chance. The geography of the apartment meant it was the easiest of all the Tapas 7 accommodation to break into.

The McCanns did not claim anything had been taken or moved in the sense of looking for valuables.

Think statistics. What would be the statistical chance of a burglar, come paedophile, happening upon an unlocked holiday apartment with children under the age of 4 unsupervised?

According to Wiki PDL is home to a permanent population of 3,500.  Obviously this increases in line with the tourist season.  3.5k gives some idea of the number of homes.  As far as we know no one reported a break-in or attempted break-in that night so again I come back to statistics:  what are the chances of a burglar, come paedophile, happening upon an unlocked holiday apartment out of all the possibilities of other properties in PDL with children unsupervised?

Its not plausible and statistically highly improbable.  I come back to the biggest clue:  the person(s) who abducted MM knew she was unsupervised in the unlocked apartment.  This narrows it down to a handful of people.

[Cambridgecutie]

If it wasn't sexual or pedo related, one can only surmise what the Tranmers were thinking at the time.

On the drive back to their hotel. Carole says "hey Chris I'm really worried about that poor little girl in the apartment beneath auntie Pam's. What with all her crying going unattended and that weird guy leaving the apartment"
Chris says "should we go back and see if she's crying and been neglected, or should we notify the Police and report a case of child neglect"
"Let's go back if it gets late, we can always stay at auntie Pam's for the night"

The Tranmers park the car outside the apartment, notice all the comings and goings and think something isn't right here, and make a rash decision to 'rescue' the girl.

Then the proverbial hits the fan, and they don't know what to do with Maddie so they off load her somewhere to be raised by someone else.
Rescuing a child and then killing her doesn't add up.
Only a pedo would kill the child because a child is thought of being a disposable item after gratification.

Local resident, Jenny Murat (mother of Robert Murat who was at one time a suspect but completely exonerated) claims she saw a man driving a hire car in the wrong direction down a one-way street.  She thought he looked British.  In addition to this sighting she also claims she saw a woman in purple hanging around the McCann apartment.  Could this have been CT driving the hire car and CAT in purple?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3469215/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-latest-theory-woman-in-car/

These sightings were "mid evening" so around the time MM was abducted.

[snow66!]

There is a lot of evidence against Breuckner. However the German legal system is very different to ours. If he was in the UK he would easily be prosecuted.

"German criminal proceedings are by nature not a contest between parties, but an objective, judge-led inquiry into the material truth of the facts underlying a criminal charge. Equality of arms is not a principle that would apply to a similar extent as it does in adversarial systems. From the German point of view, the prosecution, on the one hand, has no individual rights of a fair trial; it has powers and duties, with the consequence that the prosecution cannot argue a violation of the right to equality of arms because the system is not adversarial, but the court itself is under a duty to find the truth. - MICHAEL BOHLANDER, PRINCIPLES OF GERMAN CRIMINAL LAW, "

Or as someone else put it -

"The German criminal justice System is a so called inquisitorial’ one whereas that of
England and Wales is categorised as ‘adversarial’. Whilst the German Prosecution
service is expected to be the ‘most objective authority in the world’ and to operate
both in favour and against the defendant, the Crown Prosecution Service’s (CPS)
role is to promulgate the suspect’s blameworthiness."

Do you think Breuckner took Maddie, Dave?

[Jonathan]

There is a lot of evidence against Breuckner

what is the evidence?

[David1819]

Do you think Breuckner took Maddie, Dave?

Most probably.

[snow66!]

Local resident, Jenny Murat (mother of Robert Murat who was at one time a suspect but completely exonerated) claims she saw a man driving a hire car in the wrong direction down a one-way street.  She thought he looked British.  In addition to this sighting she also claims she saw a woman in purple hanging around the McCann apartment.  Could this have been CT driving the hire car and CAT in purple?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3469215/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-latest-theory-woman-in-car/

These sightings were "mid evening" so around the time MM was abducted.

Mid evening? Can you be more specific, Cutie? Was it at least dark?

[Cambridgecutie]

Mid evening? Can you be more specific, Cutie? Was it at least dark?

I put quotation marks around "mid evening" as it was Jenny Murat's description.  If we take it literally then it is 9pm:

https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/@2264396 

[Cambridgecutie]

what is the evidence?

There is none.  If there was he would have been charged. 

[Jonathan]

There is none.  If there was he would have been charged.

David is adamant there is sufficient evidence to prosecute under English law. To be honest I'm not expecting him to explain further.

[Cambridgecutie]

I'm surprised that those wanting to get CB to face the music in the UK haven't jumped on this.
Of all the possible suspects CB is the closest fit to CAT's description.

Bah!

Before CB, CATS's e-fit was said to resemble Martin Ney!  Hilarious when you think CAT's claim of a 'suspicious man' is bogus! 

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4061328/madeleine-mccann-suspect-was-in-portugal-the-time-she-vanished-before-he-was-caged-for-killing-three-boys/

[Cambridgecutie]

Based on CAT's WS the 'suspicious man' was probably Matthew Oldfield leaving apartment 5B, where he was staying, and closing the gate quietly so as not to wake his young sleeping daughter:

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/dr-matthew-oldfield-one-of-the-tapas-seven-outside-the-high-news-photo/834847564

[snow66!]

I put quotation marks around "mid evening" as it was Jenny Murat's description.  If we take it literally then it is 9pm:

https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/@2264396

Well if the McCanns are innocent we know Maddie was taken sometime after Gerrys check around 9.00, by then it was pitch black so the woman that mrs Murat saw must have been beside some form of lighting in order to distinguish her purple top.
The thing is, if the perp knew the routine of the Tapas 9, they wouldn't loiter outside the apartments for long incase one of them passed by. Infact Jane Tanner saw 'Tannerman' around 9.15 while Gerry was yapping to Jeremy Wilkins, so a lot of coming and going from the Tapas 9 from 9.00 o'clock onwards.
So, whoever [if anyone?] took Maddie, be it the Tranmers or Breuckner, they were lucky they didn't bump into anyone.

[David1819]

Well if the McCanns are innocent we know Maddie was taken sometime after Gerrys check around 9.00, by then it was pitch black so the woman that mrs Murat saw must have been beside some form of lighting in order to distinguish her purple top.
The thing is, if the perp knew the routine of the Tapas 9, they wouldn't loiter outside the apartments for long incase one of them passed by. Infact Jane Tanner saw 'Tannerman' around 9.15 while Gerry was yapping to Jeremy Wilkins, so a lot of coming and going from the Tapas 9 from 9.00 o'clock onwards.
So, whoever [if anyone?] took Maddie, be it the Tranmers or Breuckner, they were lucky they didn't bump into anyone.

He would have done a lot of scouting around the resort on the day or even days before. Once he had deduced what child belonged to who and that the lights were off in the bedroom while the Tapas 7 were all at the dinner table, he had his opportunity.

I would be very suprised if Bruckner did not have a compact black market firearm on him during the abduction. He would have eliminated one of the Tapas 7 as soon as they laid eyes on him and then disappeared into the night.