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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5955 on: January 03, 2024, 11:36:PM »
Back in the 80s I had a holiday in the Algarve and hired a motorbike and rode to Sagres, the most South Westerly point of the European continent. I can remember the rugged coastline and high cliffs.
I was reminded of this when I watched this video at 3mins 40sec.
If the McCanns are guilty they could simply have thrown Maddie's body off the cliffs, and then stage the abduction, to have something to back up in the unlikely event of the body being washed up on the rocks below.
https://youtu.be/sqdNjynWz_0?t=221

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5956 on: January 04, 2024, 09:00:AM »
Back in the 80s I had a holiday in the Algarve and hired a motorbike and rode to Sagres, the most South Westerly point of the European continent. I can remember the rugged coastline and high cliffs.
I was reminded of this when I watched this video at 3mins 40sec.
If the McCanns are guilty they could simply have thrown Maddie's body off the cliffs, and then stage the abduction, to have something to back up in the unlikely event of the body being washed up on the rocks below.
https://youtu.be/sqdNjynWz_0?t=221
There might have been a scenario whereby Gerry or one of the Tapas 7, upon checking the infants noticed Madeleine had died as a result of an accident, the body being placed in the wardrobe until the McCanns devised a plan to conceal the truth, Gerry taking Madeleine's body to a cave adjacent to the shoreline, passing Martin Smith in the process. They would then have to retrieve the body quickly lest it had been discovered by some third party, hire the car, all in the face of media glare, drive to Sagres, dispose of the cadaver in a cavern and continue acting normally.

It's possible, but getting too much like an Agatha Christie novel for my liking.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5957 on: January 04, 2024, 09:59:AM »
There might have been a scenario whereby Gerry or one of the Tapas 7, upon checking the infants noticed Madeleine had died as a result of an accident, the body being placed in the wardrobe until the McCanns devised a plan to conceal the truth, Gerry taking Madeleine's body to a cave adjacent to the shoreline, passing Martin Smith in the process. They would then have to retrieve the body quickly lest it had been discovered by some third party, hire the car, all in the face of media glare, drive to Sagres, dispose of the cadaver in a cavern and continue acting normally.

It's possible, but getting too much like an Agatha Christie novel for my liking.

When was Maddie reported as last seen being alive, by someone other than the McCanns ?

If Maddie had died as a result of being over sedated, I assume it was the night before. They would of had all day to dump her body.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5958 on: January 04, 2024, 10:07:AM »
When was Maddie reported as last seen being alive, by someone other than the McCanns ?

If Maddie had died as a result of being over sedated, I assume it was the night before. They would of had all day to dump her body.
This is the official timeline. It's not answering your question, especially if the Tapas 7 are involved in the cover-up. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/apr/11/madeleinemccann

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5959 on: January 04, 2024, 12:57:PM »
All this could have been avoided by more stringent parenting. In particular to the night in question.

I would never leave my children alone sleeping in a apartment block in a foreign country, and go and drink and dine in the restaurant below. Even with checking on them.  For that matter in any kind of situation I wouldn't. These were young children not teenagers

Either get a babysitter, or modify your plans when on holiday. Simple
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5960 on: January 04, 2024, 08:10:PM »
This is the official timeline. It's not answering your question, especially if the Tapas 7 are involved in the cover-up. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/apr/11/madeleinemccann

If the McCanns are guilty I think they would have needed to have disposed of Maddy's body before they reporeted her missing, once the Police are involved their every move would have been watched closely.
If she was still alive at 2.30pm (according to the time stamp on the photo).
I can't see a time frame or motive.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5961 on: January 13, 2024, 11:01:PM »
An interesting point in the comments,of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZK8tKroIs

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Overall I’m more drawn to Maddie dieing an earlier night. But the problem with this, is we have to dismiss the theory that the twins were sedated on the abduction night, ie they wouldn’t have done it again etc .
There’s little evidence, flaky and conflicting at best, she was seen the day before. I think confirming her definite last (independent) sighting is key to this whole case.

Surely this time frame below, can all be verified by checking, in house records at the resort.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/apr/11/madeleinemccann

10am: The sixth day of the McCanns' week-long holiday in the Algarve. The couple place their daughter, Madeleine and her twin siblings, Sean and Amelie, in the Ocean Club's Kids Club while they go for a walk.

12.30pm: After collecting the children, Kate and Gerry head to their apartment, 5a, on ground floor of block five of the Waterside Village Gardens, for lunch before going to the Ocean Club swimming pool.

2.29pm: The last photograph of Madeleine is taken at the pool. The camera clock reads 1.29pm but the family says it was out by one hour.

3.30pm: Children return to Kids Club.

5.30pm: Children eat dinner at Kids Club.

Could there be a plausible time frame below. For something tragic to have happened to Madeleine & Gerry then dispose of her body.

 6pm: Kate takes children back to apartment while Gerry goes to an hour-long tennis lesson.

6.30pm: Gerry asks David Payne, one of the so-called "tapas seven", to check on Kate and the children at the apartment.

7pm: Gerry returns to the apartment and the children are put to bed in the front bedroom overlooking the car park and beyond it, the street. Madeleine is placed in the single bed nearest the door. There is an empty bed against the opposite wall beneath the window. Between the two beds are two travel cots containing the twins.

7.30pm: The McCanns shower and change.

8pm: The couple share a bottle of wine together.

8.35pm: The McCanns are the first of the group to arrive at the tapas restaurant, 50 yards away from their apartment.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5963 on: February 08, 2024, 07:46:PM »
Kidnap theory discussed: https://youtu.be/7FKH6MrP4qg

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5964 on: February 11, 2024, 05:21:PM »
One is still waiting for the evidence from German prosecutor Christian Wolters. https://youtu.be/Qkx_FEWwt-E