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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5040 on: June 05, 2020, 08:32:PM »
I'd like to know what the police have been doing all these years when he could have been nailed in 2007.


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5042 on: June 05, 2020, 09:30:PM »
Just because there was blood in the apartment doesn't mean a thing and it certainly doesn't indicate that either parent had a hand in her disappearance.

The parents had nothing whatsoever to do with the child's disappearance. Their crime was to have left them

As I understand it, there was both blood and cadaver odour detected.

Should this case ever be solved. And I believe one day it will be. Will the rabid accusers of the McCanns admit they were wrong and apologize? I doubt it. They would just start saying they sold her to this guy or whoever the perpetrator is.

"We are not stupid"

Portuguese chat show host aside (aimed at UK). 

I'm still with Amaral.  Though I do retain some element of doubt, on account of the McCann's ability to keep the campaign going. 

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5043 on: June 05, 2020, 10:03:PM »
Christian B..https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52935728

Christian Brueckner. A convicted German pedophile who has alleged to have confessed to Madeleines abduction to a friend in 2017. He was living in praia da luz at the time and his mobile phone was in use near the resort the exact timeframe Madeline went missing.

This by far the best lead yet. I’m cautiously optimistic.


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5045 on: June 05, 2020, 10:34:PM »
Christian Brueckner. A convicted German pedophile who has alleged to have confessed to Madeleines abduction to a friend in 2017. He was living in praia da luz at the time and his mobile phone was in use near the resort the exact timeframe Madeline went missing.

This by far the best lead yet. I’m cautiously optimistic.

It's interesting that a known sexual deviant resided between Lagos and Pria Da Luz and that his phone was in use at those times and that he changed ownership of his car the day after Maddie disappeared. 

It is interesting that a dog trained to detect human blood, alerted behind the sofa.. and that a separate dog trained to detect cadaver odour, also alerted behind the sofa, independent from the blood dog.

Given that the McCann's know this, why have they not adapted their abduction claims, to a theory where the corpse of Maddie was abducted by the killer, to prevent detection?  Hard as that may seem, are we now surmising that the German fellow (or A N Other) abducted Maddie while still alive and the two specialist dogs therefore alerted for no reason?

I expect you will post up stuff pertaining to false dog alerts, which is fair enough.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5046 on: June 05, 2020, 10:59:PM »
It's interesting that a known sexual deviant resided between Lagos and Pria Da Luz and that his phone was in use at those times and that he changed ownership of his car the day after Maddie disappeared. 

It is interesting that a dog trained to detect human blood, alerted behind the sofa.. and that a separate dog trained to detect cadaver odour, also alerted behind the sofa, independent from the blood dog.

Given that the McCann's know this, why have they not adapted their abduction claims, to a theory where the corpse of Maddie was abducted by the killer, to prevent detection?  Hard as that may seem, are we now surmising that the German fellow (or A N Other) abducted Maddie while still alive and the two specialist dogs therefore alerted for no reason?

I expect you will post up stuff pertaining to false dog alerts, which is fair enough.
I could understand a paedophile abducting a child as a trophy to satisfy his own sexual deviancy, and of course many professionals believe there is no cure for paedophilia which evidently will lead to repeat offending. But if this man killed her inside the apartment then why remove the body, unless of course he is seriously mentally ill in which case there is no accounting for his actions.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5047 on: June 05, 2020, 11:11:PM »
It's interesting that a known sexual deviant resided between Lagos and Pria Da Luz and that his phone was in use at those times and that he changed ownership of his car the day after Maddie disappeared. 

It is interesting that a dog trained to detect human blood, alerted behind the sofa.. and that a separate dog trained to detect cadaver odour, also alerted behind the sofa, independent from the blood dog.

Given that the McCann's know this, why have they not adapted their abduction claims, to a theory where the corpse of Maddie was abducted by the killer, to prevent detection?  Hard as that may seem, are we now surmising that the German fellow (or A N Other) abducted Maddie while still alive and the two specialist dogs therefore alerted for no reason?

I expect you will post up stuff pertaining to false dog alerts, which is fair enough.

Cadaver dogs are used to lead investigators to human remains. The fact no body was found behind the sofa leads to inevitable conclusion that it was either a false positive, handler error or even outright fabrications by the police. Had Madeline been killed in the apartment and taken away, that in itself would have created a scent trail the dogs could follow. The McCanns wereabouts are well accounted for and there is no feasible time-frame for them to have hidden a body so well.

As for this German guy -

"According to German official records, Christian B has 17 previous convictions, including for theft, forgery, drug-dealing, firearms offences, rape and sexual abuse of children."

The circumstances thus far seem very compelling. He is certainly capable of doing this.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5048 on: June 05, 2020, 11:12:PM »
I could understand a paedophile abducting a child as a trophy to satisfy his own sexual deviancy, and of course many professionals believe there is no cure for paedophilia which evidently will lead to repeat offending. But if this man killed her inside the apartment then why remove the body, unless of course he is seriously mentally ill in which case there is no accounting for his actions.

DNA / trace evidence - i.e. to prevent detection.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5049 on: June 05, 2020, 11:18:PM »
Cadaver dogs are used to lead investigators to human remains. The fact no body was found behind the sofa leads to inevitable conclusion that it was either a false positive, handler error or even outright fabrications by the police. Had Madeline been killed in the apartment and taken away, that in itself would have created a scent trail the dogs could follow.

Cadaver dogs can detect residue scents.  if a body or body part was initially placed somewhere and then moved elsewhere, the cadaver dog can still identify the scent of death in the area.  This happened in the apartment, corroborating the separate human blood dog alert.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5050 on: June 05, 2020, 11:33:PM »
Cadaver dogs are used to lead investigators to human remains. The fact no body was found behind the sofa leads to inevitable conclusion that it was either a false positive, handler error or even outright fabrications by the police. Had Madeline been killed in the apartment and taken away, that in itself would have created a scent trail the dogs could follow. The McCanns wereabouts are well accounted for and there is no feasible time-frame for them to have hidden a body so well.

As for this German guy -

"According to German official records, Christian B has 17 previous convictions, including for theft, forgery, drug-dealing, firearms offences, rape and sexual abuse of children."

The circumstances thus far seem very compelling. He is certainly capable of doing this.
He is, but isn't he a rather convenient scapegoat during Brexit negotiations, a bit like the travel quarantine for Brits who venture abroad, and I wonder if the money is running out again.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5051 on: June 05, 2020, 11:38:PM »
Cadaver dogs can detect residue scents.  if a body or body part was initially placed somewhere and then moved elsewhere, the cadaver dog can still identify the scent of death in the area.  This happened in the apartment, corroborating the separate human blood dog alert.

Cadaver dogs are only as good as their level of training and the competency of their handlers.

https://news.sky.com/story/sniffer-dogs-can-hinder-police-work-10488976

Furthermore, The back of the sofa was subject to thorough DNA testing and nothing was found.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5052 on: June 05, 2020, 11:41:PM »
He is, but isn't he a rather convenient scapegoat during Brexit negotiations, a bit like the travel quarantine for Brits who venture abroad, and I wonder if the money is running out again.

This has been brought up by the German authorities. Why would they be doing this for a Brexit agenda?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5053 on: June 05, 2020, 11:47:PM »
Cadaver dogs are only as good as their level of training and the competency of their handlers.

Furthermore, The back of the sofa was subject to thorough DNA testing and nothing was found.

It could have been cleaned.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5054 on: June 06, 2020, 12:10:AM »
It could have been cleaned.

The whole family (including Madeline) was seen that day by fellow holiday makers. Is there even time for a murder, cover plan and clean up? lol its crazy