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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4305 on: September 15, 2019, 10:48:PM »
Madeleine is dead and the McCann parents and some of the other tapas 7 group were complicit in the cover up, and the disposal of the four year olds body...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4306 on: September 15, 2019, 11:02:PM »
The more I look into the circumstances of this matter, I feel that Madeleine McCann died on the 30th April 2007 -  and that the crying toddler incident as reported by the resident Mrs Fenn, before midnight 1st / 2nd May was not Madeleine McCann at all, but that a child belonging to Russel O'brien and Jane Tanner was staying with the McCann twins on that particular evening...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4307 on: September 16, 2019, 05:05:AM »
the crying toddler incident as reported by the resident Mrs Fenn, before midnight 1st / 2nd May was not Madeleine McCann at all, but that a child belonging to Russel O'brien and Jane Tanner was staying with the McCann twins on that particular evening...

If I am right about that then obviously this would mean that the McCann parents and their friends left the children home alone back in the apartment on three occasions on the evening of 1st, 2nd and 3rd May 2007. Moreover and that they deliberately let the staff know that not only were two young children being left home alone back in the McCann apartment whilst the parents wined and dined at the nearby tapas restuarant, but the McCann's or a member of their group had told a member of staff that they needed to book the same tables in the restaurant at about 8.30pm each evening so that they could keep an eye on the apartment and that the McCann's had left the door of their apartment unlocked.

If Madeleine had died on 30th May 2007, and not as we all have been fooled into thinking ( 3rd May 2007) the information given to Ocean club staff by the parents acted as a conditioning of staffs minds -  done deliberately so that the McCann parents could plan how to Introduce Madeleines demise days later...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4308 on: September 16, 2019, 05:22:AM »
I think that Madeleine McCann was never present at all inside apartment 5A anytime on or during the 2nd and 3rd May 2007, and that because she had died on 30th April 2007 her body was concealed inside the apartment overnight ( 30th April / 1st May 2007) and transported away to a nearby location for disposal of Madeleines body. I am convinced that by the beginning of 2nd May 2007 that the body was taken to the derelict building which is located directly across the street from the village church (St Vincent's)
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4309 on: September 16, 2019, 05:30:PM »
I don't think the Tapas 7 would have covered for the McCann's all this time. If anything the latter were outsiders and loyalty only stretches so far. https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/who-tapas-7-mccanns-friends-14135573

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4310 on: September 18, 2019, 06:01:PM »
Five hours in May (website)

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Some oddities regarding Version 2
Oddities regarding the time of event 3rd/4th May
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Some oddities regarding Version 2
Disclaimer: Every criminal case which is a case of circumstantial evidence, where there is no confession nor the dead or alive victim is found, will have some oddities to be explained. Oddities occur in such cases in principle always as a result of missing information. Every single oddity on one side and single evidence on the other side may, as a single objective, be rejected by any more or less well founded argumentation. To judge on a case of circumstantial evidence is only possible through an overall view of all the evidence and apparent contradictions as well, which has to be done, hopefully in the future, by a professional judge in a court of competent jurisdiction. Thus the following samples of oddities are just markers one has to think about besides the pure evidence. The listed oddities can therefore be regarded only as puzzles to investigators but never as a sole decision maker.

There are a lot of contradictions in the statements of the Tapas-Group. For a short overview one may see also two free PDF's: ?What really happened to Madeleine McCann? and also the fine ?2008 booklet from Tony Bennet with the same title but different content.

Also some nice oddities are to be found at the what-happened-to-madeleine-mccann-Blog ?(1) ?(2) ?(3). Dr. Martin Roberts has also made some interesting analysis in 2009, ?2010, ?2011, ?2012.

See also Some oddities regarding Version 1.

Oddities regarding the time of event 3rd/4th May
Sample 1
taken from ?McCannFiles By Dr Martin Roberts 18 January 2014, LAID TO REST

But who actually put the McCann children to bed that Thursday night?

KM (statement to police, 6.9.07): 'They also kissed Madeleine, who was already lying down. She was under the covers, she thinks, because it was a bit cold… She remained lying down on her left side, with the soft toy and a pink blanket, which she thinks was covering her.'

GM (from the documentary, Madeleine Was Here): “So, I actually came in and Madeleine was just at the top of the bed here, where I'd left her lying and the covers were folded down and she had her cuddle cat and blanket, were just by her head.”

KM (6.9.07): 'After Gerry arrived the children went to brush their teeth and she then read them another story, this time all four of them sitting on Madeleine's bed. She thinks that Gerry entered the room, but does not recall him sitting on the bed.… she thinks that Gerry was in the room, and each one of them, the deponent and Gerry, placed a twin in its cot at the same time, between Madeleine's bed and the bed under the window. They also kissed Madeleine, who was already lying down.'

GM (statement to police, 10.5.07): 'At around 19H00, he made his way to the apartment, finding Kate and the children playing on the sofa. About 10 to 15 minutes later, they took the children to the bedroom and they all sat on Madeleine's bed to read a story.'

KM (6.9.07): 'They talked while they drank, until they left for the Tapas restaurant at around 8.30-8.35 p.m. Before leaving they checked on the children, she doesn't know who; however Gerry says it was him. She only knows the children were quiet. She doesn't know if they were in their same positions. She says she is sure that they were asleep, because Gerry told her so and all was quiet.'

The disturbing fact here is: Although usually in such cases the last seconds with the child are “burned” into the brains of the parents, here we may see the fact that the parents contradict each other and even themselves in their statements. Thus it seems to be just constructed reality.

Another sample of the same oddity is given in ?TV-interviews, analysed by Dr. M. Roberts:

“There is a wealth of witness testimony regarding events at the Ocean Club, Praia da Luz on 3rd May, 2007, in the light of which it is strange that neither Kate nor Gerry McCann appears able to discuss their last recollection of daughter Madeleine, on that fateful day specifically.

Q (For Spanish broadcaster, Antena 3): “Allow me to take you both back to the 3rd May. What's the last thing you remember about Madeleine?”

KM: “Just a happy little girl. A beautiful, happy little girl”

Not: 'She was sleeping beautifully' or 'was sound asleep'.

GM: “Just think of all the times… the nice times that we've had with her in our house, and in her playing, in the playroom with her… with her… the twins.”

Note that the question sought to elicit the last thing remembered, not a lasting remembrance. GM could not even place Madeleine in Portugal. He describes happy times at home in Leicester. The interviewer tries again later.

Q: ”…Some questions concerning that night, the 3rd May. What's the last thing you remember of Madeleine that day?“

KM: “It's a little bit like as I mentioned before, she was very happy, errm… and very loving and, you know, I know Madeleine was very happy with her life. She's special.”

Still no specific recollection regarding May 3rd however.

Q: “Kate, you were the last to see her weren't you, because Gerry was playing tennis I believe, isn't that right?”

KM: (Struggles to answer. Fails to answer).

GM: “I saw her. I saw her and, errm… I thought how beautiful she was and how lucky I was to be the father of three children.”

Note that this was in answer to the immediately preceding question of who was the last to see Madeleine, the date reference having now been dropped. To accompany this non-specificity of date, there is elsewhere an adjustment of time. KM is understood to have raised the alarm, upon discovering Madeleine's absence, around 10.00 p.m. GM et al are reported to have been at the Tapas restaurant at that time.

The BBC's Jane Hill asks: “And then on the Thursday night, Kate, when you realised that she wasn't in her bed where you'd left her, did you think, even momentarily perhaps that she'd just woken up, wandered off of her own accord perhaps?”

KM: “Not at all, no.” (long pause)

GM: “No, I mean, that, I think, was absolutely certain but, you know, before you raised the alarm, we double and treble checked, but we certainly had no doubt in our mind that she'd been taken.”

So, GM appears to have been aware of Madeleine's absence earlier than 10.00 p.m. on May 3rd.”

Again the disturbant fact here is, that the McCann's obviously have no (tellable) recognition of the very last seeing of her daughterMadeleine alive. Something like this seemingly will never occure for any usual parents loosing a loved child by an abduction or alike happenings.

This must be seen in a total contrast to what Kate herself stated in her book “Madeleine”, here regarding some not so important happenings with ?Maddie at the beach:

“You may be wondering not only what relevance all these minute details might have to anything, but also how I can recall them so distinctly and how accurate my recollections can possibly be. The answer is that, within a couple of days, every single apparently inconsequential thing that happened on that holiday would become vitally important, and Gerry and I would soon be painstakingly trying to extract from our brains every tiny incident, no matter how small, that might have been significant. Armed with notebook, pen and dated photographs, I would be challenging myself to piece together as comprehensive an outline of the sequence of events as I could. The regular routines of the week helped to make any deviations from them stand out and undoubtedly made this easier.”
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4311 on: September 18, 2019, 06:05:PM »
Five hours in May (website)

Sample 2
The timeline of the Tapas group

The Tapas group consisting of the McCann's and seven adult friends wrote two timelines in the time about 22:15 to 23:15, between the time the alarm was alleged risen by Kate McCann and the arrival of the PJ at apartment 5A. The two timelines were produced in this one hour and are themselves contradicting.

The disturbing facts are:

Why invested the Tapas Group this crucial hour for writing timelines, in which they agreed on a special time (22:00) for the alarm, instead on searching for the allegedly some minutes ago disappeared child?
Why is the alleged alarm time clearly different from independent witnesses testimony?
Why do the two timelines written differ so much that they by no fair means the difference can be explained by some misunderstanding?
There is no serious explanation avaiable why in the first timeline there were a lot of control visits to the apartments and no Suspect Viewing, and in the second timeline, written only minutes after the first, there are no control visits but then a suspect viewing.
Why did Gerry McCann one week later even push the alarm time another quarter hour into the future?
Why were the E-fits of the Smiths-Sighting covered for five years, as this sighting occured exact at the allged time of 22:00 which cannot substantiated by independent witnesses?
The two written timelines were presented to the PJ at 23:15 seemingly by mistake by Russel O'Brien: ”Estimated time 11.15 pm - The first officer to arrive at Ocean Club was handed two lists by Russell O'Brien, written by him on the ripped-off cover of a child's “sticker activity book”.” It is obviously that the timeline, including the events and especially the alleged alarm-time is just a construction of alleged reality, vulgo a lie, as it is not explainable by fair means how the discrepancies could have happend by pure chance.

Evident is also: Between the alleged alarm/abduction time about 22:00 and the appearence of the Police at 23:15 there was maximum just 1:15 time to do so, if believing in Gerry's Statement on 10th May even just one hour, and to construct this two formally written time lines. Now, to bring together nine people, then talking about consent in time line, thus resulting in the first timeline which was obviously impossible in connection with an abduction theory; then recognizing this; next changing the whole timeline and getting consense on another very strange other timeline, writting it down and making it perfect for PJ (signed “Gerald” exemplar), how long does this take? At least seemingly most of the time of about just one hour. But more than disturbing, besides the unexplainable differences in the two alleged timelines, now is: why didn't they use this critical one hour after there “disappearence” to search for her?

Or to put it another way around: What would normally parents do if they found one of their children is missing? The fact is that no evidence of forced entry was observed, no destruction, no disorder. In addition, Kate claims that only in the childrens room a window was ajar. What would you suggest or at least hope for in such a situation? That the child merely ran away on itself lies on hand. What then could have happened? Has it lost? Did an accident happen? Perhaps she went to one of the many pools there and now threatens to drown if no help arrives within minutes? Or even she walked to the nearby sea swimming and drowning close to the beach? Definitly, this first hour after the discovery of absence is crucial for the rescue of a child in such cases, regardless of what somebody assumes or “feels” what did happen. Anything other than seeking is nothing more than the acceptance and consent of her death. Indeed the statements of the Tapas Group are disturbingly contradictory regarding their alleged “searches”. Even Kate and Gerry admitted that they ?“did not search physically” in an interview. Instead they used the most crucial hour to do some phone calls home and to arrange two timelines of witness statements for the Tapas group. Obviously the time needed to do so was that low that Russel O'Brien presented both contradicting timelines, by horrific mistake as seen from McCann's, to GNR and PJ.

So the thing is: why not giving evidence like every wittness some hours later, at a time when it searching would not have been crucial any more. As also it then first would be possible to assume that she did not just walk out but eventually could have been abducted? Even when as alleged the “feeling” that she was abducted was really evident to the Tapas Group, why even then now not searching in this crucial first hour intensivly after her and possible get her out of the red-handed abductor and thus possibly saving her live? At exactly this hour, possibly somewhere in the ultimate neighbourhood, Maddie was possibly in very severe danger. The only thing which could have made some sense then was losing not a jota of time and doing an intensive search around there by all of the Tapas group. Why but now did the Tapas group for sure spend, at least the most part, of this crucial irretrievable hour with adjusting their stupidly contradicting timelines instead of trying to save Madeleine's life being allegedly in ultimate danger?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4312 on: September 18, 2019, 06:09:PM »
Five hours in May (website)

Sample 3

First words

When rising the alarm on 3rd May Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Kate's first words to her mother (by phone the same evening), Susan Healy, after Madeleine's disappearance were: “She's gone, mum. She's gone.”. Disturbing fact here is: Although allegedly nothing was clear about what happened to Madeleine at the evening/night 3rd May 2007, Kate at once said it was an abduction and possibly that she deceased. Obviously things only the offender could know at this time.

See witness Charlotte Pennington. See some more also on ?First reactions at McCannFiles.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4313 on: September 18, 2019, 06:11:PM »
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Sample 4
The story of the ?'Jemmied shutters'

Extract: “The First Reactions: Here we read the first reactions from Kate and Gerry's closest family and friends, immediately after they have been contacted individually with the news that Madeleine has been 'abducted'. Note how consistent the stories are that an 'abductor' gained access to a locked apartment by breaking open the shutter on the bedroom window and escaping by the front door. The story changed later when it became clear the shutters on the window had not been forced, were not damaged in any way and could only be opened from inside the apartment. From that point, the McCanns became convinced that an 'abductor' had entered through 'open' patio doors and escaped through the open shuttered window. ”

see also e.g. ?gazetadigitalmadeleinecase, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 The broken shutters: a persistent campaign of manipulation
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4314 on: September 18, 2019, 06:12:PM »
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Sample 5
Number One Suspect

On the evening 3rd May there was only one immediate independent suspect sighting of an possible abductor. See Smith's sighting about 22:00 clock 400 yards footwalk from the Apartment 5A. The suspect was described and an E-Fit was produced but oppressed by the Madeleine Fund for five years until Operation Grange went on with it at Crimewatch in 2013. Mr. Smith identified the suspect with high possibility as Gerry McCann.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4315 on: September 18, 2019, 06:14:PM »
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Sample 6
Vandalising Evidence

Although all of the Tapas 9 were equiped with Digital Cameras and Mobile Phones, ?Data on the phones for the 3rd/4th were deleted, and allegedly not any photo taken. The photos would have given evidence to what especially Gerry McCann had worn that evening in relation to the Smiths' Sighting (ca. 22:00).

Also the McCann's alleged to have not had a first-aid kit, obviously it vanished. Although it is well known that Doctors allways have well equiped one's; even usual parents with three small kids always have alrge first-aid kits. From this the evidence, if or if not any dangerous medication resulting in an allergic shock got vanished. Seemingly deliberate.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4316 on: September 18, 2019, 06:19:PM »
Five hours in May (website)

Sample 7
The nonexisting photos

The evening of the 3rd of May was the last evening for celebration, as the 4th dropped out due to the fact that on 5th very early in the morning the friends had to leave the resort. Everybody was equipped with digital cameras and mobile phones able to take photographs. Usually on such a last evening celebration dozens of photos are taken as commemoration. But all members of the Tapas 9 insisted to have not taken any photo. Why that?

The disturbing fact is: If they didn't lie and they really did not take any photo, there obviously was no reason to celebrate as seemingly they knew Maddie was dead. Or they lied and took photos, but destroyed them to avoid pieces of evidence (e.g. what clothes did Gerry wear regarding to the Smiths' Sighting?). In either case, Maddie was known to be already dead.

Diana Webster stated in her ?second interview regarding the time 3rd around 22:00: “- She adds that that night, and after the occurrence of the facts under investigation, have been in the apartment on two separate occasions. At the time described above she remained about 10 minutes in the apartment. After this time she returned to the restaurant to get her handbag as well as the camera of the couple McCANN and “baby monitor” of her daughter, and was soon back again in the apartment.” In her ?third interview she stated: “…4078 ”Do you remember who else was around when you back to the apartment?” Reply ”I think, well Fiona was there I think and err Rachael, I remember seeing Rachael and Gerry, I just remember Gerry sitting in the chair just absolutely, well roaring is the only word I can describe it as, just absolutely beside himself. The men, the other men I think were, had gone out looking, running around shouting Madeleine, and Fiona, Fiona wanted me to go back and err keep, I mean obviously everybody’s concerned for their own children as well and I think also there’d been things left at the table, like err cameras and Rachael’s jacket and things so I, I err, I think I went back to the table then to pick up err what had been left behind, I’m not sure, I think the monitor was there as well and one of the staff at the restaurant asked me what had happened and I just said one of the children has gone missing.”…”
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4317 on: September 18, 2019, 06:21:PM »

Five hours in May (website)

Sample 8
The Quiz happening/Maddie crying on 1st/2nd May At around 8.45pm on Tuesday 1st May 2007, Miss Nejoua Chekaya, the Ocean Club’s busty Aerobics Instructor, held a “Quiz Night” and was later invited, allegedly by Gerald McCann, to join his table which she did sometime between 9.30pm and 9.50pm. She did not say how long she had remained with them, but she is not the sort of woman men would wish see to leave too quickly. Miss Chekeya stated that one dinner setting was unused and that she could not remember seeing Kate McCann.

Mrs Fenn, the McCann’s neighbour, reported that Madeleine had cried for her father between 22.30 and 23.45. The [?phone records ] evidence shows that Kate McCann was in Apartment 5A 14 minutes before Madeleine started crying. Tuesday 1st May 2007 is the only night (except, of course, for Thursday 3rd May 2007) that either of the McCanns or any of their friends made calls after dinner. Mrs McCann volunteered to the PJ that on the night of Wednesday 2nd May 2007, she had slept in the spare bed in her children’s room because her husband had not paid her enough attention over dinner. Or put another way, does she mean the amorous Scot was paying someone else (like Miss Chekeya [ besides: also rumors alleged to have had an affair with also busty Jane Tanner ]) too much attention, causing her to stomp out of the Tapas Bar before him: ultimately leading to the spare bed in a strop? Gerald McCann said he thought the reason his wife had slept in the children’s bedroom was because of his snoring and that he did not even bother asking her the following morning what the problem was.

Kate McCann’s mobile was next activated six times, in rapid fire, between 22.16 and 22.27, after she had returned to Apartment 5A after dinner. The antenna traffic proves that these calls were not made to any of the “Tapas 9”. (The phone data were later deleted, thus vandalizing eveidence, by the McCann's.) A possible reason is that they wanted to conceal both Kate McCann’s state of mind and the fact that she had returned to Apartment 5A, just before Madeleine’s cried for help. On Wednesday 2nd May 2007 morning, Kate McCann called her friend “Amanda” at 7.36.41 and again at 7.36.45. This was around two hours earlier than any of mobile activations on any other morning: so Kate McCann was “up with the larks”. Amanda returned the calls at 7.50. There is no record of how long any of these calls lasted or whether they were SMSs. They were all deleted from memory. At 8.07 Gerald McCann received a call from the SMS message centre (447818520047), but does not appear to have responded. At 8.50 Kate McCann received a call from a UK mobile xxxxx27010 and returned it at 8.53, before going to play tennis. Gerald McCann received a series of calls from his SMS message centre between 9.10 and 10.47, again without response. The batch of SMS messages received by Gerald McCann on Wednesday 2nd May 2007 seems to have caused him some anxiety. Although the number “07818520047” is in a block allocated to Vodafone, the company has no record of the subscriber’s name. Thus the number appears to be a message box for Gerald McCann that sends him an SMS when his mobile is unable to accept a call.

However, when he was asked by “Expresso TV” on 6th September 2008 about the “sixteen SMS messages” received, he flustered: “No one has ever asked to see any of my text messages. There is no way that there 16 messages on that day or even the day after, you know. You know, the day after, you know that we got…” Kate McCann came to his rescue and interrupted:“Gerry hardly ever sends text messages until the day after, the day after Madeleine was taken”. Gerald McCann continued: “so you know that it is actually rubbish”. Their McCann’s denials were, of course, technically true although perhaps disingenuous – because there were only 14 messages received on the day before they reported Madeleine missing and two on the day after. There were 16 SMS messages, in total, so why prevaricate and deny an allegation that was never made. The question was about received messages, not those sent, and on the day before not on 3rd May 2007 or the day after! In the field of forensic linguistics you must always concentrate on the precise wording of denials and especially on those of allegations not made. The denials made by the McCanns are suspicious. However, Mrs McCann’s statement about her husband not sending SMS messages, until after Madeleine’s disappearance, is confirmed by Vodafone’s records.

Obviously the truth behind this incidence is that the McCann's had a severe ?marriage crisis. Gerry's seemingly preference for busty girls, which but is contrasting marathon sportswomen Kate, climbed up to ultimate stress on Evening/Night 1st/2nd May. Seemingly Kate informed some friends in her anger, which let wake up Maddie and she then deliberatly leaved her crying back for a run into the circumference of the ocean club. She slept in a spare bed and next morning she stood up much earlier as usual and again called friends or relatives still being in anger. Gerry then got a bunch of 14 SMS's in return making him also ultimate marriage, if not divorce, stress. It obviously could have been one of the main reasons which led to the then coming accident resulting in the death of Madeleine after 17:30/around 18:00 on the 3rd May 2007.

see also

?Mail on Sunday, McCanns rowed and slept in separate rooms the night before Madeleine vanished
?McCannFundFraud McCanns were broke in 2007
following sample 10 and related The last Photo article.
?GerryMccannsBlogs, Original Source: EXPRESS Oct. 24,2007, MADELEINE: FATHER PLAYED TENNIS AFTER SHE VANISHED: Waiter Jose Baptista, 45, told how the staff were amazed by the calm demeanour of Gerry McCann and his wife Kate in the agonising days after Madeleine disappeared: “…They were so cool about it. All the staff commented about how they were able to play tennis and take things calmly. Everybody around them seemed more upset than they were. They very rarely showed any signs of affection like they did for the cameras. I think I saw them holding hands once. But they weren’t always together and affectionate like they are in front of the cameras. I never saw close contact. ….”
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4318 on: September 18, 2019, 06:35:PM »

Five hours in May (website)

Sample 9
David Payne calls Scotland Yard on 23:30 4th May.

On his last interview, David Payne was asked about his dubious call to London Police on 23:30 4th May 2007:

(Officer:) “Yeah. So my, my recollection of xxx is a London number if that helps.” (David:) “Yeah, I'll just have a little look. I, I can't remember, I've got friends that are down in London which I haven't got her number in here, whether she saw it and rang it I don't know. Was it a long, long call or…”

(Officer:) “Err, yeah it was quite a long call.” (David:) “Right, okay.”

(Officer:) “But you actually called the number.” (David:) “Yeah, okay.'

(Officer:) “Do you recall me telling you about the London number, which you couldn't find in your phone” (David:) “Yes.”

(Officer:) “That number actually transcribes back to the Crime Specialist Director in London.” (David:) “Mm.”

(Officer:) “Did you contact them?” (David:) “Err I did yes. My, err you know my sister err had been in contact with them and she was trying to do everything that she could knowing the, err, the difficulties that we were having out there so you know I did approach them just asking for advice but err I can't remember, I don't think I actually spoke to anyone there, but for some reason that wasn't carried forward.”

(Officer:) “Yeah.” (David:) “But I mean, you know, just into the context of the conversation you know we're in a strange country, we've got no representeers we don't know what's going on, all hell's broken loose and you know to see whether you can do anything to help Madeleine come back, you know and that was the lines that we were taking.”

(Officer:) “Do you remember who you spoke to?” (David:) “I don't know.”

(Officer:) “The call was made on the following day at twenty three thirteen, so that's late at night.” (David:) “Mm.”

(Officer:) “You don't recollect anything else about the conversation that you had with that, was it you that made the call” (David:) “Err I, yeah I know that I got phone numbers from my sister which I did you know ring them but I can't remember making one late at night.”

The disturbing fact is: Of course the Tapas 9 had as much as British official support as possible. Very unusual the British Consul came on his own feet to Praia da Luz to serve the Friends already in the morning, and later even the British Ambassador from Lissabon made an official SkyTV Show sustaining the Group. There was no reason to make a long, obiously private (23:30) call to a seemingly friendly high level Police Officer in Britain. This but may be seen in relation to his obvious part in covering the death and also the The Payne-Allegation and the possible background.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4319 on: September 18, 2019, 06:36:PM »
Five hours in May (website)

Sample 10
The last Photo

The parents had a good 6 Mpx Canon Camera which makes pretty pictures at high resolution. But they asserted to have no recent photos shortly before the ”abduction“. The alleged last Photo of 3rd of May, released on 24th May but is just an altered picture and is clearly a fake. This is very much disturbing. The main question arising are:

why didn't the parents have any original usable photos of Maddie on 3rd May?
if they really didn't have one, why was Gerry so eager but to fake one?
why the hell did Gerry cover his eyes on the photo with faked large sunglasses?
The answer maybe, that they needed a Photo of the last day of Maddie to “prove” that the whole family was in best order and well tempered. But as sample 8 shows, this was definitly not the case. Indeed there was large stress between the parents, such that well tempered photos could not been taken. Another additional possibility lying on hand is (in connection with Pamela Isobel Fenn witnessing crying Maddie and the Quiz happening and its aftermath) that e.g. Kate hurt Maddie on 2nd/3rd May which then would have left visible bruises on such a photo. Which then but would have given hard evidence for the Accidential Killing Theory. A reason to eventually “photoshop” Maddie into the picture.But the undeniable fact that Gerry's sunglasses are faked in the picture, this may have only one logical reason: Gerry's left eye region was hit, presumably by a slap in the face by Kate on 2nd May. There don't exist Photos of 2nd or another of 3rd May, but the first next one was done on 4th morning by reporters. Obviously he was slaped in the face some time before as the still little swollen left eye side shows. Also in the 3rd May photo with faked sunglasses, one may see the light extended bruise lighted by sunlight.This is how the ”last photo“ originally looked really like. From the original position of the sunglasses it is obvious how the reflection originated and why the tip of Amelie's hat can be seen in it. We can find the high-resolution photo at ?Pamalam. There we can see the fake more exactly:Besides the physically impossible false horizon reflection, we get another prove: The red arrows point to the places, where the frame of the sunglasses should appear, but there aren't any. This the case, as the glasses where taken from his T-shirt collar where it was folded. The white reflections on the frame just show the T-shirt. The last question that comes up now may everybody answer oneself: May you really trust people who deliberately falsify such an important photo?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...